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If one wanted to make asinine statements, I suppose we can suggest you need them to grow up and become welfare recipiants so they can stimulate the economy, but I'd never be that dumb.
That makes no sense. Liberals what less unwanted babies to be born, so there will be less on welfare. How the hell do welfare recipients do stimulate the economy anyway?
How else do you think they "take care" of babies born during botched abortions? Do you think botched abortions only happen under one doctor in the country? Wow, thats fantastic news I bet..
There is a legitimate need for doctors who perform late term abortions.
When you have fanatics threatening to kill them, guys like Gosnell are going to take the opportunity to take their place.
Are some abortions botched? I am sure some are. But many births are botched too. A doctor in my area was just slapped with a 14 Million dollar settlement for crippling a child for life. It happens.
That makes no sense. Liberals what less unwanted babies to be born, so there will be less on welfare. How the hell do welfare recipients do stimulate the economy anyway?
Yep. Aborted babies are unwanted babies. Unwanted kids are abandoned, abused and hardly nurtured. Do people think most of these kids will grow up to be upstanding productive citizens?
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Just on this first page of the P&OC, there are many examples of Republicans trying to turn an argument by bringing up abortion.
Let me go on record by saying that I am pro-life. However, I understand that Roe vs Wade has been on the books for nearly 40 years and probably isn't going to be overturned. Yet Republicans keep harping on about how much Democrats supposedly support abortion. Any time something is brought up they don't like, their answer is "Yeah, but Democrats kill babies."
Why the obsession with abortion? Don't they have other things to be concerned about?
A) Because partisan sheep on both sides get a nut off arguing about stuff that doesn't matter, especially wedge issues. They are not bright enough to see NO politician will ever risk his or her political career making changes to R v W, because they are essentially moral cowards.
B) It is another "cause" partisan sheep can latch on to. Some people's lives are not complete unless they're carrying a banner of some sort. That in itself wouldn't be bad if they had any chance of changing anything, but in this case, they don't.
First, the term "pro-life" is a canard. It implies that there are people who are "pro-death."
The most appropriate terms are "pro choice" and "anti choice."
Secondly, it is a moot issue. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned (nor should it be) and even if it were, the issue would just revert back to individual state rights. It's not as if all 50 states are going to outlaw abortion. Abortion will always be accessible, and rightfully available under safe, clinical circumstances.
Finally, I find it ironic that it is nearly always the same people who insist on dictating to others and endorsing government interference into the personal lives and decisions of our citizenry when it comes to this issue are usually screaming and whining about how we should have smaller government.
Another thing that is quite ironic (and hypocritical) is that the same people who insist that every fetus is precious and must be protected are very frequently:
AGAINST birth control and sex ed.
AGAINST social programs designed to help the poor and unfortunate.
PRO war
PRO gun
and PRO death penalty.
Imbecilic and hypocritical.
And I have fairly conservative views when it comes to guns (I believe in the right to own and bear arms) and capital punishment (I believe some people deserve to die but I think the system is disfunctional and I don't like the State having that much power--to be able to execute people) but telling women and couples whether or not they can have an abortion is completely antithetical to every conservative principle.
That makes no sense. Liberals what less unwanted babies to be born, so there will be less on welfare. How the hell do welfare recipients do stimulate the economy anyway?
I dont know how welfare recipiants stimulate the economy, but thats what Obama said.
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Originally Posted by Annie53
There is a legitimate need for doctors who perform late term abortions.
When you have fanatics threatening to kill them, guys like Gosnell are going to take the opportunity to take their place.
Are some abortions botched? I am sure some are. But many births are botched too. A doctor in my area was just slapped with a 14 Million dollar settlement for crippling a child for life. It happens.
But now you're changing the argument from what you said which is that it doesnt happen, to now justify it taking place.
I too think the Republicans are crazy about abortion and I don't know why they are on it so hard. I think it was one of the things that cost them the election. Abortion is a womans tough choice to make. It is her body and her life that will forever be changed. Why would the Rep. want another baby that may be neglected, and will probably wind up on welfare? Or a pregnancy that could hurt or kill the mother? It is a very hard choice for a woman to make but it needs to remain her choice.
I'd wager that if any of these high horse soap box politicians Rep. or Dem. got their intern pregnant that they would personally drive them to the clinic so the unwanted baby wouldn't destroy their political career.
I too think the Republicans are crazy about abortion and I don't know why they are on it so hard. I think it was one of the things that cost them the election. Abortion is a womans tough choice to make. It is her body and her life that will forever be changed. Why would the Rep. want another baby that may be neglected, and will probably wind up on welfare? Or a pregnancy that could hurt or kill the mother? It is a very hard choice for a woman to make but it needs to remain her choice. I'd wager that if any of these high horse soap box politicians Rep. or Dem. got their intern pregnant that they would personally drive them to the clinic so the unwanted baby wouldn't destroy their political career.
Isn't that the truth!
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