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Old 05-07-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by ELR123 View Post
Saying it doesn't make it true. Especially when referring to one's self in the third person.

But I'll leave it at that I suppose, to avoid derailing this.
Harrier is being truthful.

Saying that he is not does not make your delusions true.

 
Old 05-07-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Well, I don't have any burning desire to leave, but if I did, my values would be consistent with some of the finest countries on earth, including:

Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Finland
Germany
New Zealand
Australia
Ireland
Iceland
Canada
Switzerland
Netherlands
France
Costa Rica
Italy
Portugal
Great Britain
Belgium
Austria
Japan
South Korea
Bhutan

It would not be that bad, those socialist hells are actually very decent places with nice people and where an unexpected illness will not bankrupt you.

Go ahead, develop a comparable list where laissez faire principles rule and life is great.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Good argument, buddy.

So are you telling me that the USSR was stateless and classless?

I'm not even a communist, by the way, but to call the USSR communist is crazy.
USSR was a communist country.


According to the Article 76 of the Soviet Constitution, the sovereign Soviet socialist states united to become the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Article 81 of the Constitution stated that "the sovereign rights of Union Republics shall be safeguarded by the USSR".[2]
In the final decades of its existence, the Soviet Union officially consisted of fifteen Soviet Socialist Republics (SSR). All of them were considered to be Soviet socialist republics (SSR), and all of them, with the exception of the Russian SFSR (until 1990), had their own Communist parties, part of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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USSR was a communist country.
Yeah, and North Korea is Democratic Republic with free elections. It's right there in their constitution. Unless - and this is a wild thought - unless perhaps dictatorships can't be trusted to describe themselves faithfully?
 
Old 05-07-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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USSR was a communist country.


According to the Article 76 of the Soviet Constitution, the sovereign Soviet socialist states united to become the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Article 81 of the Constitution stated that "the sovereign rights of Union Republics shall be safeguarded by the USSR".[2]
In the final decades of its existence, the Soviet Union officially consisted of fifteen Soviet Socialist Republics (SSR). All of them were considered to be Soviet socialist republics (SSR), and all of them, with the exception of the Russian SFSR (until 1990), had their own Communist parties, part of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
Names don't mean much. I like to look at substance. And when you actually look at the USSR, you see a authoritarian socialist state.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Allow me to be more specific.

When are you moving to Holland?
I wasn't planning a move to Holland, as great as it would be to live there, all my family lives in the Northwest which is where I want to have a family....though I still don't see what that has to do with this topic.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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In case you haven't noticed, Conservatives are the ones who wish to succeed and leave the US.
Since you clearly haven't notice Conservatives want the US to return to what it used to be, we don't want the entire country to become a liberal cesspool like you've turned every major city into. People like you simply can't grasp the idea that not everyone wants to have Big Brother take care of them from birth to death and give other peoples money to anyone with their hand out.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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Where should liberals live?
How about the futon in your trailer house? Would that work? Ya, I know, you live in America
 
Old 05-07-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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This is the OPs question. "Where should liberals live?"

I will live where I am, and anyone else can live where they want.

Short answer. ANYWHERE they choose.
But the question was "other than the US".
 
Old 05-07-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I wasn't planning a move to Holland, as great as it would be to live there, all my family lives in the Northwest which is where I want to have a family....though I still don't see what that has to do with this topic.
The question posed in the thread(which I am paraphrasing) is "where should liberals live since they hate the United States of America?"

Since you are a liberal, I will assume that by "northwest" you mean the Northwest Territories of Canada.

If you like Holland so much, why don't you move there?

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