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Old 05-21-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Florida and the Rockies
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westender, you'd be surprised how over-extended some people are. I didn't say he had lost the house but about to. Live day-to-day, miss a paycheck and some are in real trouble. They bought the house 5 years ago (not the best time to buy) and maybe had problems making payments before then, I don't know those details.

And I don't know his life story. Coulda, woulda, shoulda the world is full of those. Going to Ivy league school doesn't guarantee success - jobwise or financially.
Ain't that the truth!
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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Anything for dear leader...including lies and distortions:


Feb. of last year:
Employment Rate For Young Adults Lowest In 60 Years, Study Says

"Just 54 percent of Americans ages 18 to 24 currently have jobs, according to a study released Thursday by the Pew Research Center. That's the lowest employment rate for this age group since the government began keeping track in 1948. And it's a sharp drop from the 62 percent who had jobs in 2007 -- suggesting the recession is crippling career prospects for a broad swath of young people who were still in high school or college when the downturn began."


April of this year:
U.S. Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1979

"And the percentage of working-age adults in the labor force — what's called the participation rate — fell to 63.3 percent last month. It's the lowest such figure since May 1979."

"Even Americans of prime working age — 25 to 54 years old — are dropping out of the workforce. Their participation rate fell to 81.1 percent last month, tied with November for the lowest since December 1984."

May of this year ie THIS month:
RealClearMarkets - Why Friday's Jobs Report Was Ominous

"During April, the FTE jobs ratio fell for the fifth month in a row, to 53.09."


April of this year:
U.S. sees highest poverty spike since the 1960s, leaving 50 million Americans poor as government cuts billions in spending | Mail Online

"The number of Americans living in poverty has spiked to levels not seen since the mid 1960s, classing 20 per cent of the country’s children as poor."


April of this year:
Record Number of Households on Food Stamps-- 1 out of Every 5 | CNS News

"Record Number of Households on Food Stamps-- 1 out of Every 5"


March of this year:
Household income tumbles during the Obama "recovery" | Human Events

"The New York Times delivers some news so grim that it had to cook the headline to hide it: “Median Household Income Down 7.3% Since Start of Recession.”

Well, yes, but as the Times reluctantly admits in the very last paragraph of the story, 5.6 percent of that decline has occurred since the Obama “recovery” began."


Yes that is correct...just over 3/4ths of the decline in household income happened during the "recovery".


This week. May 2013.
Jobs Report May 2013 Analysis: Declining Hours May Anticipate Slowdown

"Of particular concern to Sy is the decline in average hours worked – which may signal there’s less work that needs to get done."
RealClearMarkets - Why Friday's Jobs Report Was Ominous

Just wanted to add that the Full Time Jobs Ratio has dropped for 5 straight months...hopefully we will find out that this streak has been snapped. Maybe one day soon, we will no longer have a smaller full time job ratio than when the "recovery" started?
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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Housing and Stock Market...........two OBVIOUS bubbles that are going to explode yet again.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:07 PM
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This whole thing gets a bit sad sometimes.

We have a vast swath of the population that is so invested in the idea of the US failing and eternally hopeful that it'll actually happen, that they cherry pick data (and pick whatever date ranges tell them what they want to be true), ignore the effects of an aging population, etc.

Our economic situation is clearly far from ideal, but I will never understand the cheering for the nation to fail (or cheering for the economic engines of the country to fail because they happen to be run by liberals) just because you're still butt hurt about losing an election, and then losing another.

Is there a recovery? Yes, obviously so, unless you're living in a fantasy world. Look around. Only a few short years ago there were foreclosures everywhere, stores closing, people losing their jobs like mad. Now, I drive around and those for sale signs are gone and new stores are opening and companies are making massive expansions.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Yeah, US voters are pretty stupid alright.

How do more dollars that are worth less help?
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:25 PM
 
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Only for the rich. So what, the Dow is soaring to new heights, doesn't help me any. Big deal, million dollar homes are recovering. The real unemployment rate is still double digits, it isn't getting any better for the middle class and lower classes.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:45 AM
 
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Manufacturing declines in April to its lowest point in 4 years.

Manufacturing has declined since the "recovery" began.


U.S. manufacturing index for April unexpectedly declines - The Washington Post
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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If you look at the "recovery" since 2009, yes things are better. But we really haven't seen any improvement for the last 2 years. The economy seems just kind of stagnant and struggling. No body seems terribly optimistic that things will get any better. Statistically its the worst recovery since the Great Depression, so calling it a recovery is a bit of a stretch. Fortunately, we live in Texas. We haven't seem much effects from all this except in 2009. Since then, things are great. Still building new businesses, new housing, new streets. We'd probably be doing even better if it wasn't for the drought.

Did you ever notice how often that when there is a decline in an economic statistic its labeled "unexpected"????.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Honest Debate - does anyone believe that we are in a recovery?

The economic recovery is not a matter of opinion. Honestly.

It should be more robust and would be w/o the GOP obstructionism. They created the crisis and are heavily committed to prolonging its effects.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Only for the rich. So what, the Dow is soaring to new heights, doesn't help me any. Big deal, million dollar homes are recovering. The real unemployment rate is still double digits, it isn't getting any better for the middle class and lower classes.
You do not have a 401K?
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