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Old 04-28-2014, 10:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Corporate military forcing the world to trade a dollar for stuff.

The Federal Reserve prints 16 trillion and gives it to the EU.
Where strings attached or not?
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:51 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Corporate military forcing the world to trade a dollar for stuff.

The Federal Reserve prints 16 trillion and gives it to the EU.
Where strings attached or not?
No strings in the Bush Bailout of banks both foreign and domestic. Got to love Bush.

Audit of the Federal Reserve Reveals $16 Trillion in Secret Bailouts -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net
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Old 04-29-2014, 02:07 AM
 
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Corporate military forcing the world to trade a dollar for stuff.

The Federal Reserve prints 16 trillion and gives it to the EU.
Where strings attached or not?
Are you referring to this? There are always strings. Always the same people who pay for it.

Breakdown of the $26 Trillion the Federal Reserve Handed Out ...
Bernanke's Obfuscation Continues: The Fed's $29 Trillion Bail ...

Global currency will be changing soon enough. Though, I am sure the plan will be gradually manage the transition. Any day now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ZceSeGK3s
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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Corporate military forcing the world to trade a dollar for stuff.

The Federal Reserve prints 16 trillion and gives it to the EU.
Where strings attached or not?


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Petrodollar.

i am now dumber for having read these two comments


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The Federal Reserve prints 16 trillion and gives it to the EU.
given to the EU? huh?
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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given to the EU? huh?
Well the Fed words it so it's not literally a "bailout".

They used the term "temporary U.S. dollar liquidity swap arrangement"


http://www.federalreserve.gov/moneta...idityswaps.htm
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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Well the Fed words it so it's not literally a "bailout".

They used the term "temporary U.S. dollar liquidity swap arrangement"


FRB: Central bank liquidity swaps - Credit and Liquidity Programs and the Balance Sheet
swap arrangements aren't a form of "bailout," nor are they a form of "printing money."

furthermore, we engaged in these swap agreements with the bank of japan, bank of england, bank of canada, ECB, and the swiss central bank, among others. Some of those countries had (and still have) stronger currencies than we do.
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The question is, when will the rest of the world realize we are handing out worthless play money that amounts to little more than a slip of notebook paper with "IOU" written on it?

Of course, that's essentially what it has always been. But at one time it was backed by a bit more than a smile and a finger... and an outstretched, open hand (palm up).
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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swap arrangements aren't a form of "bailout," nor are they a form of "printing money."

furthermore, we engaged in these swap agreements with the bank of japan, bank of england, bank of canada, ECB, and the swiss central bank, among others. Some of those countries had (and still have) stronger currencies than we do.
Actually, one needs to be careful here. The details matter. People get confused when such abstraction and obfuscation occurs. Liquidity and fungibility are important here. So is the clear picture of who is getting what.

Yes swaps have been around for awhile. The derivatives market has really taken off since the 90's. SWAPs are going to continue to increase it appears.

A similar issue has come up with QE discussions and yet thanks to JPM we can see what was happening there with that GAP.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Well the Fed words it so it's not literally a "bailout".

They used the term "temporary U.S. dollar liquidity swap arrangement"


FRB: Central bank liquidity swaps - Credit and Liquidity Programs and the Balance Sheet
Yes bankers/govt come up with all sorts of different terms.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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Actually, one needs to be careful here. The details matter. People get confused when such abstraction and obfuscation occurs. Liquidity and fungibility are important here. So is the clear picture of who is getting what.

Yes swaps have been around for awhile. The derivatives market has really taken off since the 90's. SWAPs are going to continue to increase it appears.

A similar issue has come up with QE discussions and yet thanks to JPM we can see what was happening there with that GAP.
there are different types of swaps ..

the swap we're talking about here is just managing interest-rate risk between multiple developed economies. So the U.S., Canada, Switzerland, the EU, Japan, and the UK are all getting together to partially "share inflation and deflation", and keep their currency values partially linked together. This is to provide stability and predictability.
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