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It matters if your argument is "Man can't change anything" - which seems to be the case with you folks.
Man has changed a LOT of things - ever hear of the DUST BOWL. Do you even have clue as to WHY it happened?
Ken
The earth's climate changes, and has changed, sometimes massively, all by itself, long before mankind came on the scene. Man's impact has been minor is even measurable, and when superimposed in the pre-existing changes shivels to complete irrelelvancy.
...That means humans are pumping in CO2 without considering whether or not the earth is warming.
???
Do you even understand the concept of "logic"?!
I want to send you a gift card for Wal-Mart, but you can only use it to buy a clue. You'll find them in the pharmacy section right next to the self-lobotomy kits and the cranio-rectal removal gels.
The earth's climate changes, and has changed, sometimes massively, all by itself, long before mankind came on the scene. Man's impact has been minor is even measurable, and when superimposed in the pre-existing changes shivels to complete irrelelvancy.
Again, the fact that something has happened naturally does NOT mean it can't happen from Mans' action.
Do you have the SLIGHTEST understanding of LOGIC?
Your contention is akin to saying that "forest fires happen naturally so they can't happen from Mans' action" or "nuclear fusion happens naturally so it can't happen from mans' action" or "species go extinct naturally so it can't happen from Mans' action" - that argument is stoooooopid.
If CO2 spikes in the past (that have happened naturally) caused the temps to rise, and we raise the CO2 numbers - why would you think the temps won't rise THIS TIME (just because it's MAN increasing the CO2 instead of NATURE increasing the CO2)?
Right? We know that. Will those loser Marxists publishing nonsense in peer reviewed journals ever catch on? Sheesh.
Actually we do know that. Any high school chemistry student could tell you that increasing temperatures of liquids will decrease the solubility of any dissolved gases found in the liquid, i.e. a soft drink loses its fizz due to increasing temperature of the drink driving the co2 out.
Again, the fact that something has happened naturally does NOT mean it can't happen from Mans' action.
Do you have the SLIGHTEST understanding of LOGIC?
Your contention is akin to saying that "forest fires happen naturally so they can't happen from Mans' action" or "nuclear fusion happens naturally so it can't happen from mans' action" or "species go extinct naturally so it can't happen from Mans' action" - that argument is stoooooopid.
If CO2 spikes in the past (that have happened naturally) caused the temps to rise, and we raise the CO2 numbers - why would you think the temps won't rise THIS TIME (just because it's MAN increasing the CO2 instead of NATURE increasing the CO2)?
Geeze!
Ken
I don't think you're getting the point. But I'll give it a try.
Since it happened before without our influence, it's possible (not necessarily definite, but possible) that it can occur - is occurring - now without our influence. That since we weren't around to cause these previously mentioned circumstances before, then LOGICALLY they can still occur without our influence - i.e. that we might not be causing it now.
Who is saying that global warming never occurred in the past? No one is saying that. What they are saying is that mankind has contributed to it happening at a more rapid rate than it would otherwise.
Who is saying that global warming never occurred in the past? No one is saying that. What they are saying is that mankind has contributed to it happening at a more rapid rate than it would otherwise.
Of course global warming has occurred in the past. Nobody is saying otherwise. Global cooling has also occurred, again, w/o our intervention.
But the jury is still out as to how much - if any influence we are having the global warming of today (I have freezing warmings here in TN ofr theclast few nights in mid-May, btw)
Also, to point out, it's not called 'global warming' anymore. It's "climate change", since data is making the "warming" aspect seem paradoxical.
Of course global warming has occurred in the past. Nobody is saying otherwise. Global cooling has also occurred, again, w/o our intervention.
But the jury is still out as to how much - if any influence we are having the global warming of today (I have freezing warmings here in TN ofr theclast few nights in mid-May, btw)
Also, to point out, it's not called 'global warming' anymore. It's "climate change", since data is making the "warming" aspect seem paradoxical.
Surely the high school Chemistry teacher understands the difference between weather and climate?
On average, the global average temperature is practically the same. Incoming radiation is equal to outgoing radiation. Yet over millions of years, very insignificant and very minimal daily changes have sent the earth between a ball of ice and a ball of fire.
...Consider the different heat retention properties of things like water and land.
...Consider the physical differences between solid water and water vapor and it's significance to weather.
...Consider the heat retention of the various gases in the atmosphere.
...Consider the fact that the night and day temperatures vary greatly on Mercury and aren't present on Venus.
...Consider the light blocking properties of matter in the atmosphere.
...Consider the temperature inversion in the atmosphere
...Consider the average temperature of the hydrosphere.
...Consider slow moving ocean currents.
Prehistoric factories run by greedy, capitalistic dinosaurs.
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