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Old 05-30-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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Additionally, climate change is happening more quickly than anticipated. There are headlines every day.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/2...r-more-extreme
Earth's Oceans Are Warming Faster Than Anticipated: Study | Time
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
https://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/glob...arming-science

Some will believe it, others will not.


9 dimes compared to a 4,429 ft. mountain.


That is what you are worried about.


Can you think about that for a brief moment?

 
Old 05-30-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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That's okay ya'll. Thanks for playing. I get it. Some things are difficult to grasp. It took me a while too.
 
Old 05-30-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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That's okay ya'll. Thanks for playing. I get it. Some things are difficult to grasp. It took me a while too.
That's okay trobes... When the IPCC fails to validate warmists' fantasies, warmists turn to USAToday.
 
Old 05-30-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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That's okay trobes... When the IPCC fails to validate warmists' fantasies, warmists turn to USAToday.
Actually they didn't.
 
Old 05-30-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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That's okay ya'll. Thanks for playing. I get it. Some things are difficult to grasp. It took me a while too.


That's the problem- you are not "grasping it".


The physics of CO2 and how it acts with IR energy shows that interaction cannot possible produce the results you are claiming.


Very few people who support AGW understand the physics of CO2 and IR energy and are thus culled into believing this lunacy.
 
Old 05-30-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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That's the problem- you are not "grasping it".


The physics of CO2 and how it acts with IR energy shows that interaction cannot possible produce the results you are claiming.


Very few people who support AGW understand the physics of CO2 and IR energy and are thus culled into believing this lunacy.
So scientists don’t understand their own work?
 
Old 05-30-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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So scientists don’t understand their own work?
They understand it; and they understand they could not make the case for AGW... that's why the IPCC adopted post-normal (pseudo)science.

Anyone who silently fell in line with that bulls**t no longer has the right to call themselves a scientist.
 
Old 05-30-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Not only is the CO2 levels up to record amounts, the fake science climate denier propaganda is up to record levels as well.

Climate deniers have to post to political forums because the fake trash they spew can't and won't be published in respectable science journals. The reason science journals don't accept their propaganda is because it's not based on science. When climate denial is based on legitimate science then I'll have an open mind to it; until then, climate denial is all clap-trap.

The fact is human-caused climate change is ramping up rapidly, as extreme weather becomes more common with severe floods, droughts, hurricanes, tornadoes, glacier and sea ice melt, etc. The evidence is piling up. And climate change is beginning to kill people now. That's a fact.
They're not up to record amounts. During the Ordovician-Silurian and the Jurassic-Cretaceous periods (approx 450 and 150 million years ago, respectively) CO2 levels were greater than 4,000 ppm and about 2,000 ppm, respectively. Had nothing to do with humans. Plus, there was no runaway greenhouse gas-induced global warming during those periods. Instead, there was glaciation. Spewing nonsense such as you just did is why so many don't take anthropogenic climate change nutters seriously.
 
Old 05-30-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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They understand it; and they understand they could not make the case for AGW... that's why the IPCC adopted post-normal (pseudo)science.

Anyone who silently fell in line with that bulls**t no longer has the right to call themselves a scientist.
So would you be able to sit in a room with these scientists and be able to school them?
Who would evaluate your credibility?
 
Old 05-30-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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So scientists don’t understand their own work?
Oh I am quite sure they understand it.


You are under the misconception propagated by the media that all physicists support AGW- they don't.


Further, not all scientific articles are properly conducted or reflective of fact. One simply has to look at the Mann "hockey stick" article to understand this. That article was the "smoking gun" for the AGW crowd. However, given the very poor methods and statistics, Mann was voted by his peers to be dismissed from the Penn State Physics Dept. , only to be saved through political pressure from the Chancellor.


James Hansen, the champion of AGW, was considered to be an "academic embarrassment" by his mentor, James VanAllen (founder of the Van Allen radiation belts). Do you think Van Allen was a fool who did not understand the physics of CO2 and IR energy?

MANY of these AGW articles have very dubious methods and statistical analysis that do not pass the muster of proper methods or statistics. To presume that all "scientific articles" are correct is fool hardy.
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