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Old 05-11-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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So the father has no choice? And when did violating a woman's choice become murder? And how can it be murder if the fetus is not a human?
Correct. The father has no choice. Lets say the fetus is human. Abortion should still be legal. That's my opinion. You have yours and that's ok too. Have a nice day.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It's not a conundrum. It is the ordinary and necessary result of ambiguity.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Correct. You can't have it both ways. It's either a human or it's not a human. The person removing the fetus should not determine if it is a human or not.
But the laws are that it is both ways.

And it's not just abortion where the government isn't consistent.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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So, charge him with practicing medicine without a license.
I agree. Plus the murder charge too.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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But the laws are that it is both ways.

And it's not just abortion where the government isn't consistent.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Well I guess the lawyers won't have any chance of getting him convicted for murder, it is that simple.
They shouldn't, but the law is fickle on this, so we'll just have to see how it plays out. That is what makes it conundrum.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Who was murdered?
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Fetal Homicide State Laws

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One involved the woman's choice, the other is against her will. Not sure why this is so hard to understand. A woman has the right to choose, not be forced by others one way or another.
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I would like for a pro choice person on this forum to tell me just who Castro murdered.
Go and read Roe v Wade. It clearly spells out that a women has the right to determine the course of her own pregnancy under the guidance of a medical doctor.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Who was murdered?
The fetus. Or child. Or whatever you would like to call the unborn.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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They can't change the value of the loss, just because there is a choice to put more value on something that the law see's no value in, and 'refuses to to see a potencial objective value. Its a contradiction. They want to charge him for stealing what would be their understanding of a worthless maple tree seed in the store(womb) and place a loss in the value of a full tree.
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