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Old 05-11-2013, 12:50 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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According to the U.S. Census Bureau real wages rose 50% for manufacturing workers from 1860-1890. And another 34% from 1891-1914. This was when less than 3% of the workforce was union. It was also before unions had special legal protections and there were no minimum wage laws. Plus, millions of unionized workers were leaving Western Europe for the non-union United States.


How do you explain wages increasing faster without unions or minimum wage laws, than with them?


How do explain migration from union areas to non-union areas and not the other way around (except for a decade or so in Detroit).


Unions can't, so they choose to ignore these facts and make up their own history.
this is a copy and past job, links please.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Greenpoint
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Or they want to bypass human workers to adopt the latest technology, like robots, that replaces them. I'm sure it will be easy to program a robot that's anti-union.
This is why Republicans are dangerous, how stupid can these people by? They must already be robots. How can they be so against working people, enough to call them "thugs". They are digging their own graves.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Are you really ignorant enough to believe that the choice is

union job with benefits at $20 an hour
non union job with no benefits making minimum wage?

I cant take anyone seriously who believes this..
Why not? Have you simply not walked a day of your life in the real work day world before, while looking for a job? I know I have. If never for you, what a sheltered life you've had.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by OhioRules View Post
According to the U.S. Census Bureau real wages rose 50% for manufacturing workers from 1860-1890. And another 34% from 1891-1914. This was when less than 3% of the workforce was union. It was also before unions had special legal protections and there were no minimum wage laws. Plus, millions of unionized workers were leaving Western Europe for the non-union United States.

How do you explain wages increasing faster without unions than with them?

How do explain migration from union areas to non-union areas and not the other way around (except for a decade or so in Detroit).

Unions can't, so they choose to ignore these facts and make up their own history.
With so FEW members to tend to, they have plenty of time to make up their own history. They haven't got a future, after all. 6% private sector now, 35% 40 years ago, most likely it will drop under 4% within a decade or two looking at the trend line..long-term.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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It`s a shame to see so much contempt for the American worker.Some folks might find their ideal country to be Bangladesh.
I agree. I'm amazed at the number of folks who have contempt for their fellow americans not to want them to have a choice...
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I agree. I'm amazed at the number of folks who have contempt for their fellow americans not to want them to have a choice...
In the same manner Stalin gave his folks no choice.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:53 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Walmart?
7.75 an hour working someone elses job while also doing yours (even though the boss tells you to do both) and then firing you because they purposefully violated labor laws by not giving you a break or lunch and then their justification being that you knew the law, even though they told you they would fire you if you took a lunch because "we have been to busy today".

yep, Wal Mart.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Greenpoint
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I agree. I'm amazed at the number of folks who have contempt for their fellow americans not to want them to have a choice...

As bad as you say unions are, they are on our side, they fight for the average worker and they fight hard.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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I find it amazing they cry about union dues, I have never heard a union member complain about this. It is worth it and I am glad each worker gets a chance to speak at monthly union meetings which include top brass, speaking as a union member myself.
Yup.It was the best $40 I spent every month and retiring at age 54 was pretty cool too.The company I worked for did very well with their union labor.Well enough to be spending over a billion dollars on a new rolling mill.Being built with union labor and to be operated with union labor.
ATI chooses firm to supply rolling mill in Brackenridge
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Why not? Have you simply not walked a day of your life in the real work day world before, while looking for a job? I know I have. If never for you, what a sheltered life you've had.
Sure I have, not once have I had choices you are prescribing.. If thats your life then god it must suck to not be able to find anything more than minimum wage without a union.
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