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I'm sorry, but to those saying that employers will not abuse this are living in fantasy land.
If they do it will only be because those in charge of regulations allow it. Now granted we have seen over and over cases where those in charge of regulations have decided to not enforce those regulations but that isn't a reason to allow those of us that would rather have comp time have it.
Having worked at places that did both, I think comp time is great if you get a chance to take it. This one place I worked was always short, someone was always sick or having a baby, and the answer to comp time requests was always, "We need you". At least with overtime, you get something for your time, right away.
This right here is what people fear. I too was in that same position, I ended up quitting with over a month of comp time banked. Do you think I got paid for it? Of course not! Because it was my fault that I didn't take it!
Yes, it's good for business. But the reality is that it's going to screw over the average worker.
This right here is what people fear. I too was in that same position, I ended up quitting with over a month of comp time banked. Do you think I got paid for it? Of course not!
Yes, it's good for business. But the reality is that it's going to screw over the average worker.
From the bill:
An employee may also request in writing that monetary compensation be provided, at any time, for all compensatory time accrued that has not yet been used. Within 30 days of receiving the written request, the employer shall provide the employee the monetary compensation due in accordance with paragraph (6).
and
An employee who has accrued compensatory time off authorized to be provided under paragraph (1) shall, upon the voluntary or involuntary termination of employment, be paid for the unused compensatory time in accordance with paragraph (6).
An employee may also request in writing that monetary compensation be provided, at any time, for all compensatory time accrued that has not yet been used. Within 30 days of receiving the written request, the employer shall provide the employee the monetary compensation due in accordance with paragraph (6).
and
An employee who has accrued compensatory time off authorized to be provided under paragraph (1) shall, upon the voluntary or involuntary termination of employment, be paid for the unused compensatory time in accordance with paragraph (6).
Yes, when you leave you must be paid for the time. However, it is not so easy to get it if you do not terminate. I know, I work for the state. I have worked well over 200 hours of overtime in the last year and have not (and can not) be paid for one red cent of it. If I left (voluntarily or non-voluntarily) yes I would be paid. In the here and now though, I have no ability to receive compensation for those hours.
Yes, when you leave you must be paid for the time. However, it is not so easy to get it if you do not terminate. I know, I work for the state. I have worked well over 200 hours of overtime in the last year and have not (and can not) be paid for one red cent of it. If I left (voluntarily or non-voluntarily) yes I would be paid. In the here and now though, I have no ability to receive compensation for those hours.
Then wouldn't you be for this bill since is has that 30 day notice part ?
This bill would actually help you get your money.
Yes, when you leave you must be paid for the time. However, it is not so easy to get it if you do not terminate. I know, I work for the state. I have worked well over 200 hours of overtime in the last year and have not (and can not) be paid for one red cent of it. If I left (voluntarily or non-voluntarily) yes I would be paid. In the here and now though, I have no ability to receive compensation for those hours.
Again your argument boils down to the idea that we can not allow this because of government incompetence.
Where I work supervision is allowed comp time (even though they are still paid by the hour) but regular employee's are not. They simply put the code into their time sheet on the computer as to which one they want and it's simply done.
I want the same option. I can carry over vacation hours into the next year if they don't get used. I can cash out X amount of vacation hours at the end of the year.
Again, you're free to keep your head firmly planted up your own ass. I can't imagine it smells too fresh up there...then again, with all the BS spewing from your mouth, I doubt you can even notice.
You don't own a business do you? It's pretty clear from your lack of comprehension.
People who own businesses are just greedy and stuff. Without all those protections our slave-drivers would throw acid on their 8 year old workers as they pull 14 hours shifts at the dog poop factory.
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
Because they won't have to...that's why. They'll abuse this whole comp time thing.
BTW...your last paragraph is a fantasy. Not even close to being believable.
Do you earn more than minimum wage? Does your employer pay you more than the lowest amount they are legally allowed to pay you?
If not, you have partially proven yourself wrong.
I don't earn minimum wage. I work in a relatively unskilled job and I make a little over $40K a year (excluding bonus) before tax and I have other benefits as well. Am I rolling in green? No, but I make more than what my employer has to pay me because people at my skill level or higher will seek a job that pays a better amount.
What the bill would do is end long-standing labor law by allowing private-sector employers to offer compensatory time off in lieu of time-and-a-half pay for overtime. If it became law, there are some workers who would prefer payment and some would prefer comp-time. However, there is nothing to stop an employer from discriminating against those who prefer payment by cutting their overtime entirely. Nor would employers face any penalty if they forced unpaid overtime on workers who fear losing their jobs if they object.
So, instead of paying workers for additional hours, paying comp-time effectively adds to the company's profits as it shifts the liability of the comp-time to the future -- which, according to the bill, can only be used at the employer’s convenience.
How does this help families again? It adds flexibility to employers not families. Fortunately, it won't make it out of the Senate.
It is indeed well named it will let employers twist employees into pretzel shapes thus demonstrating their flexibility.
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