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Old 05-11-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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The socialist turd in the WH has ruined the best health care system in the world.

Grassley: Baucus Retiring Because He
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:46 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The socialist turd in the WH has ruined the best health care system in the world.

Grassley: Baucus Retiring Because He
HAHA... by no objective measure on Earth has the USA ever had the best healthcare system in the world. That's just patriotic claptrap. And I can show you the data.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Isn't Grassley Republican?
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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HAHA... by no objective measure on Earth has the USA ever had the best healthcare system in the world. That's just patriotic claptrap. And I can show you the data.
I just know that people from all around the world come here for treatment. On any given day there are more countries represented at the Cleveland Clinic than at the U.N.

I do wish someone would have done something to provide better access for all but unfortunately it doesn't seem that will happen for quite awhile.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I just know that people from all around the world come here for treatment. On any given day there are more countries represented at the Cleveland Clinic than at the U.N.

I do wish someone would have done something to provide better access for all but unfortunately it doesn't seem that will happen for quite awhile.
His data consists of evidence showing skinny people outlive fat people.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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U.S.A might have the best Hospitals and research facilities but, there is no way in hell we have the best health care program.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:00 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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His data consists of evidence showing skinny people outlive fat people.
Conservatives: please use caution when reading the information below. There are many things in there called "facts" and "statistics" which will blow up your pig-headed "USA is always the best" perceptions. You may experience some discomfort. The information below is based on the professional work result of people who have received what is called an "education", which you are welcome to consider as well. Also, bear in mind that there are many big, scary words in these articles. Liberal use of a dictionary is encouraged for you.


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It's no news that the U.S. has lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality than most high-income countries. But a magisterial new report says Americans are actually less healthy across their entire life spans than citizens of 16 other wealthy nations.

And the gap is steadily widening.
U.S. Ranks Below 16 Other Rich Countries In Health Report : Shots - Health News : NPR

Life expectancy in U.S. trails top nations - CNN.com

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America is the country where people spend the most on healthcare and live the shortest amount of time, when compared to Western Europe, Japan, Australia and Canada - that is, the rest of the developed world. Although life expectancy has improved in the USA over the last thirty years, it has improved much faster elsewhere.
American Life Expectancy Disappointing Compared To Other Developed Countries

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The United States gets the smallest bang for the buck in terms of life itself amongst developed countries: it realizes the lowest level of "life returns." The U.S. healthcare system returns the fewest life years for each dollar spent. The United States, for example, has invested an additional 8.3% of GDP in health since 1971. That investment yielded a PYLL reduction of 5157 years. America realized a return of 621 potential years of life gained for each additional percentage point of GDP invested in health.


How Effective is American Healthcare? - Umair Haque - Harvard Business Review

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There are fewer physicians per person than in most other OECD countries. In 2010, for instance, the U.S. had 2.4 practicing physicians per 1,000 people -- well below below the OECD average of 3.1.

The number of hospital beds in the U.S. was 2.6 per 1,000 population in 2009, lower than the OECD average of 3.4 beds.

Life expectancy at birth increased by almost nine years between 1960 and 2010, but that's less than the increase of over 15 years in Japan and over 11 years on average in OECD countries. The average American now lives 78.7 years in 2010, more than one year below the average of 79.8 years.
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The U.S. spent $8,233 on health per person in 2010. Norway, the Netherlands and Switzerland are the next highest spenders, but in the same year, they all spent at least $3,000 less per person. The average spending on health care among the other 33 developed OECD countries was $3,268 per person.


Health Costs: How the U.S. Compares With Other Countries | PBS NewsHour
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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Conservatives: please use caution when reading the information below. There are many things in there called "facts" and "statistics" which will blow up your pig-headed "USA is always the best" perceptions. You may experience some discomfort. The information below is based on the professional work result of people who have received what is called an "education", which you are welcome to consider as well. Also, bear in mind that there are many big, scary words in these articles. Liberal use of a dictionary is encouraged for you.




U.S. Ranks Below 16 Other Rich Countries In Health Report : Shots - Health News : NPR

Life expectancy in U.S. trails top nations - CNN.com



American Life Expectancy Disappointing Compared To Other Developed Countries





How Effective is American Healthcare? - Umair Haque - Harvard Business Review







Health Costs: How the U.S. Compares With Other Countries | PBS NewsHour

dude...don't know who you are trying to convince, i'm staying put...lol....move to norway if ya want, no one is stopping ya....!
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I just know that people from all around the world come here for treatment. On any given day there are more countries represented at the Cleveland Clinic than at the U.N.

I do wish someone would have done something to provide better access for all but unfortunately it doesn't seem that will happen for quite awhile.
And Americans go to other countries for treatment. It's called medical tourism.



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Quality of U.S. medicine: The 'best' health care depends on your perspective

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says, "We do start with the notion, however, that we have the best health care in the world." If McConnell had diabetes, he might pause. American diabetics suffer twice as many foot amputations as diabetics in Europe because they cannot afford care to prevent foot infections from turning deadly.

House Speaker John Boehner says we have "the best health care delivery system in the world." But there are 35 other countries in which a pregnant woman and her baby have a better chance of surviving the pregnancy. The United States leads the industrialized world in deaths preventable with timely care. There are 15 other nations providing every citizen with lifesaving treatments denied to many unfortunate Americans.
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Whatever world these leaders live in, it is not the one that Oregonians (or most other Americans) inhabit. Every other industrialized country provides better care to more people for less money. We cannot do better if our leaders insist the world should learn from us, not us from them.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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And Americans go to other countries for treatment. It's called medical tourism.
It's a poll asking people if they would consider it.
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