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Old 05-15-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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First of all, what has just happened is not a single individual ..it is a group...In other words, this administration let the press know, that they have no protection. This is comparable to Nazism and Communism and radical Islamism.

Secondly, the individual you used as an example at least had the benefit of appealing to a court...The current administration did not give that benefit to ALL the reporters they spied on.

Thirdly, the court case you are referring to was truly a threat to security (as opposed to a political threat that Holder and the gang were trying to plug up).

The woman gave out information about a CIA operative. Think about that!!!!

Especially in light of what is happening with terrorism today.

People that become operatives for the CIA or FBI mostly do it out of concern for what they know is a danger to all people. So, they try to get information to help fight a wrong.

And they do it at great personal risk. So if this stupid ***** was so desperate for a story that she actually put someone (and perhaps their family) at risk, she and the person that gave her the information belonged in jail. More so, they should have been shot for treason.

And it's the same for Bush and that pudgy VP of his, when they exposed that woman as a CIA operative. It did not matter if she had little significance...What mattered is that all potential operatives will now think twice about helping this country...they know they are taking a risk to be exposed by some idiot to get some political vengeance or a lousy moment of fame for some crappy little reporter.

Some people that post to this forum have some growing up to do...they do not understand how the world turns.
Reporters go to jail rather than give up their sources. Now, thanks to a broad, vague and suspect "national security issue" those sources are no longer protected.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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I wonder who runs the country?
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Holder has said in a hearing in the US. House today that he had no information on the investigation at the AP, because he had previously recused himself from the investigation. He provided the name of the Department official who had this authority and I'm assuming that person will be questioned. RWNJs who in prior years have screamed loudly during the W. Bush years that disloyal and dishonest government employees should be routed from government service seem unhappy that this Attorney General has brought more cases against the disloyal and dishonest government employees than any other AG in history, if published reports are accurate. The anti-Americans and RWNJs can talk the talk but fail to walk the walk.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Holder doesn't know anything nor Obama.
Obama, Holder, Hillary.

The three monkey's come to mind, "Hear no evil, say no evil, see no evil"
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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Holder has said in a hearing in the US. House today that he had no information on the investigation at the AP, because he had previously recused himself from the investigation. He provided the name of the Department official who had this authority and I'm assuming that person will be questioned. RWNJs who in prior years have screamed loudly during the W. Bush years that disloyal and dishonest government employees should be routed from government service seem unhappy that this Attorney General has brought more cases against the disloyal and dishonest government employees than any other AG in history, if published reports are accurate. The anti-Americans and RWNJs can talk the talk but fail to walk the walk.
In that case you direct your investigation at those in government that might be leaking, not the press.
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Obama, Holder, Hillary.

The three monkey's come to mind, "Hear no evil, say no evil, see no evil"


This evil administation think goes like this. Do the evil, hide the evil, blame the evil elsewhere, point fingers not at ourselves.

I think more snakes then monkeys monkeys are too cute for the lot of them! Snakes in the grass, snakes in the WH.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:18 AM
 
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As the nation’s top law enforcement official, Eric Holder is privy to all kinds of sensitive information. But he seems to be proud of how little he knows.

Dana Milbank: Eric Holder’s abdication - The Washington Post

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/eric-...st-doesnt-know
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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This is why these stories continue to have legs. The government simply refuses to tell the truth about what happened.

More mystery over AP subpoenas process at Justice Department

Conflicting information is emerging over the process the Justice Department used to approve the subpoenas for Associated Press telephone records in connection with a national security leak investigation.

As I noted in a story Wednesday, Justice's Director of Public Affairs is supposed to be consulted on all subpoenas to the media or for media-related phone records. In the past, that consultation has prompted the narrowing of subpoenas in some cases and their rejection in other cases, though the ultimate decision rests with more senior Justice Department officials.

The Daily Beast's Daniel Klaidman reported Thursday that the head of DOJ Public Affairs at the time the request for the AP's records came through, Tracy Schmaler, recused herself from the matter because she'd been interviewed by investigators. (FBI agents also interviewed Attorney General Eric Holder, which he said this week was part of his decision to recuse himself.)

"In her absence, the job fell to a less experienced deputy," Klaidman reports.

However, a Justice Department official told POLITICO Thursday that none of the current public affairs staff was aware of or asked to offer views on the AP-related subpoenas.


More mystery over AP subpoenas process at Justice Department - POLITICO.com
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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Reporters go to jail rather than give up their sources. Now, thanks to a broad, vague and suspect "national security issue" those sources are no longer protected.
I hate to tell you this, but folks who have security clearances, and leak classified information to the press, foreigners, or generally anyone without a clearance and need to know, have never been "protected". Instead, they're often investigated and prosecuted. If there's serious wrongdoing, you could leak anyway and take the risk, but in this case the person who leaked the info apparently did it for no good reason.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If they took all the phone records from the press gallery in Congress wouldn't that also include others besides AP ?
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