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Old 05-15-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
The bigger scandal is that there is even an EPA, which is nothing more than a politicized gang that arbitrarily defines pollution and then selectively decides who can do it.
Gotta donate to certain folks to get a seat at that table it appears.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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So why didn't the group the release the requests and denials so we can see the evidence behind it?

All that is said is about a paragraph blurb of what they said they did. No evidence, no facts, no data. Even then the little detail it goes into is insane, they filed information requests on the personal emails, instant messages, and texts of Gina McCarthy. Imagine applying for a job and a bunch of wackjobs want to go through your personal email, texts, and instant messages. Of course that crap will be denied of any employee, or anyone nominated for any position.
Patience...let it all unravel at its own pace and enjoy the show.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Wow, you are calling Obummers 62,611,250 votes to Romney's 59,134,475votes a "Landslide"? Are you kidding me, that is a landslide?

51% to 47% is a landslide?
No. I am calling 332 electoral votes to 206 electoral votes a landslide. Electoral votes are what counts. Remember, Bush won in 2000 with fewer popular votes than Gore.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Liberals now openly admit that selective enforcement of the law is perfectly fine when used to punish political opponants and that "some animals are more equal than others". It is amazing that libs are so far gone that they do not even realize that they have become fascists.

Well, basically my view is that polluting the natural environment is evil. It's not really a liberal or conservative thing, it's a criminal thing. My view is that people are morally bound to prioritize the natural environment over commerce when finding a balance between the two.

To you that probably makes me a "liberal", which I don't take offense to, but insofar as my "team", liberal or conservative, I kind of hate you all. Anybody who picks one side and sticks with it is a moron.

Now about this EPA thing, if these groups in question were successfully arguing the merits of the EPA's science, that'd be one thing, but they are just political groups. Not a big deal.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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EPA is charged with air quality. Conservatives stink. EPA has no choice but to target them.
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Yet another Obama scandal has been revealed in which the EPA selectively enforced regulations and restrictions on conservative elements, while giving "green" initiatives a "pass" with little or no scrutiny.

EPA Accused of Playing Favorites with Green, Conservative Groups: Another Scandal for the White House? | TheBlaze.com

The scandals that have accumulated are rapidly revealing that the Obama administration has no regard for the rule of law and is the most corrupt administration in US history. What did you expect from Chicago politics? How are the liberals going to spin this one? How many more scandals will be revealed?
yOU SHOULD HAVE PUT YOUR hawkeye ON THIS ONE. The Blaze IS VERY SLANTED BUT I FIGURE YOU KNOW THAT AND DON'T CARE.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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If someone believes that polluting the environment is a crime, then they should turn themselves in. Driving your car polutes. Producing garbage pollutes. Flushing your toilet pollutes. Breathing produces CO2. In EPA terms, each person pollutes and are therefore criminals.

What amazes me is that people like Gore fly private jets and live in huge homes, but somehow that doesn't matter. Their pollution doesn't matter, just your pollution. They'd like to punish oil companies, all the while using their products and benefiting from all they do, not realizing that modern society could never function without crude oil, natural gas, plastics(made from oil) Most modern people are incredibly uneducated and just plain dumb. Don't think so, check out the youtube video where people sign a petition to outlaw water.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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To say "another scandal", would imply there would have to have been a 1st one .... errrr, nope, can't find one... wait, maybe that it can't be found is, ... a scandal.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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If someone believes that polluting the environment is a crime, then they should turn themselves in. Driving your car polutes. Producing garbage pollutes. Flushing your toilet pollutes. Breathing produces CO2. In EPA terms, each person pollutes and are therefore criminals.
Right, thank you captain obvious. That's why I said you maintain a balance. Toliets, for example. Yes, flushing them pollutes. That's why we should mandate that we all have sewage treatment plants. That's a balance.


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They'd like to punish oil companies, all the while using their products and benefiting from all they do, not realizing that modern society could never function without crude oil, natural gas, plastics(made from oil)
i don't think the goal is to eliminate crude oil, natty gas, etc.,

i think it is to more thoroughly account for the environmental costs of drilling/fracking, and then burning those compounds. The idea is to deliberately make pollution more expensive so people seek alternatives. Put pressure on "dirty" firms to be "clean."
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