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Old 05-16-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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This statement was made by Obama back in 2008 before becoming president.

“As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen…. We can work together to enact common-sense laws … so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals.”

Sounds nice - but how do you do that? How you keep guns away from criminals?

At a point in time, a criminal makes a first offense. Before that, he is a law abiding citizen. How do you take away the right for this person to own a gun when he hasn't done anything?

OK - now the person commits a crime. Is the criminal a felon? If yes- then that person is already banned from owning a firearm - unless a pardon is granted. If no - then there's a process required to be allowed to own a gun.

It's seems like the law is in place already for what Obama stated back then with reference to criminals. Why do we need more control?

Maybe we need to be tougher on the people when the crimes are committed instead of concerning ourselves with the guns.

Maybe we need to act more quickly with regards to the justice system instead of allowing a bunch of time to pass before the court case begins.

Maybe we need to find out how existing criminals get the guns and cut off that supply chain instead of insisting that free people who are not criminals give up our guns. Oh, I forgot - our government sells guns, don't they?
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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With hundreds of millions of guns in America, there is no way to prevent gangbangers and the mentally from acquiring them. No law will prevent anyone from acquiring guns. Making new laws only feels good to some of the people, it doesn't change anything else.

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Old 05-16-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
This statement was made by Obama back in 2008 before becoming president.

“As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen…. We can work together to enact common-sense laws … so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals.”

Sounds nice - but how do you do that? How you keep guns away from criminals?

At a point in time, a criminal makes a first offense. Before that, he is a law abiding citizen. How do you take away the right for this person to own a gun when he hasn't done anything?

OK - now the person commits a crime. Is the criminal a felon? If yes- then that person is already banned from owning a firearm - unless a pardon is granted. If no - then there's a process required to be allowed to own a gun.

It's seems like the law is in place already for what Obama stated back then with reference to criminals. Why do we need more control?

Maybe we need to be tougher on the people when the crimes are committed instead of concerning ourselves with the guns.

Maybe we need to act more quickly with regards to the justice system instead of allowing a bunch of time to pass before the court case begins.

Maybe we need to find out how existing criminals get the guns and cut off that supply chain instead of insisting that free people who are not criminals give up our guns. Oh, I forgot - our government sells guns, don't they?
well said. we have to stop coddling criminals in this country. too many times criminals are put back on the streets before their sentences are up.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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With hundreds of millions of guns in America, there is no way to prevent gangbangers and the mentally from acquiring them. No law will prevent anyone from acquiring guns. Making new laws only feels good to some of the people, it doesn't change anything else.
Criminals don't obey laws, so there is no sense in making any. They are going to buy guns anyways, so why make it illegal for them?
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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Criminals don't obey laws, so there is no sense in making any. They are going to buy guns anyways, so why make it illegal for them?
exactly!...next question
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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How do you control guns for criminals?


Hold the gun firmly in both hands, make sure the front sight nestles into the notch of the rear sight, center both upon the criminal's center of mass, take a breath and let part of it out, then slowly squeeze the trigger, taking care not to jerk the gun away from the criminal's image in the sights.

Works every time.

Now that's "gun control".

Any other questions I can answer for you?
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I suspect, if they have any sense, not a single moonbat will touch this topic. If they do their response will be nothing short of hilarious.

As far as I am concerned, every law abiding citizen should own a handgun, learn how to use it and defend themselves when their life is threatened and they have no other choice.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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More laws...more laws...more laws.....

Don't you know, criminals obey laws...just ask any leftist gun hater....

Yes, all sarcasm....well maybe....
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Obviously, you make it incredibly difficult or impossible for law abiding citizens to get ahold of the guns. After that, you just keep your fingers crossed and hope for best. I think some fairy dust and unicorns are also required. The libs can fill you in on the rest, because I'm not much an expert on illogical thought processes.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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How do you control guns for criminals?


Hold the gun firmly in both hands, make sure the front sight nestles into the notch of the rear sight, center both upon the criminal's center of mass, take a breath and let part of it out, then slowly squeeze the trigger, taking care not to jerk the gun away from the criminal's image in the sights.

Works every time.

Now that's "gun control".

Any other questions I can answer for you?
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