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Old 11-15-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Nanny state? Where does this nonsense come from? You enjoy the freedom to live your life without any number of issues encroaching on your daily life due to what SOME fools would regard as encroachment of a Nanny state.

Pasteurized milk, polio vaccine, FDA monitoring the quality of the medicines you're prescribed, food additives, speed limits on highways, FAA flight regulations, air traffic control, property ownership rights, even those silly little signs posted in restaurant washrooms admonishing staff to wash their hands after shaking their willies; all laws governing life in a civilized society.

These and any number of others are all the types of things you fools take for granted and rely upon but would nevertheless state you don't need and if they were removed tomorrow you'd be dead the day after.

You're like a pack of retarded "flat earth" proponents.
C'mon.
You gotta appreciate their entertainment value.

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Old 11-15-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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Sure, as soon as we stop providing welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, etc., to those who don't earn their own livings. Deal?
Or how about all the "illegals" the left loves to take care of.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: North America
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No. Case in point: Gary Busey.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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Wow it's amazing how RWNJs have such a hard time understanding the concept of moral hazard. Some laws are designed to keep the insurance costs for us all down. There's always going to be some idiot out there that won't do something simple like buckle a seat belt, and then the costs when they get into accident get pushed onto us all.
Bingo! Helmet laws have lessened the incidences of traumatic brain injury considerably. All to often, TBI leads to reliance on public services for life and that costs all of us. But there will always be the unintelligent and selfish who couldn't care less. Their "freedom" to be foolish is more important than the population's "freedom" from having to provide for them for life.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Bingo! Helmet laws have lessened the incidences of traumatic brain injury considerably. All to often, TBI leads to reliance on public services for life and that costs all of us. But there will always be the unintelligent and selfish who couldn't care less. Their "freedom" to be foolish is more important than the population's "freedom" from having to provide for them for life.
All too often, being born into poverty leads to reliance on public services for life and that costs all of us. Those receiving public assistance have a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't. That costs all of us.

By your motorcycle helmet logic, those receiving public assistance should be forcefully placed on birth control and required to use it every time they have sex.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:41 PM
 
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Bingo! Helmet laws have lessened the incidences of traumatic brain injury considerably. All to often, TBI leads to reliance on public services for life and that costs all of us. But there will always be the unintelligent and selfish who couldn't care less. Their "freedom" to be foolish is more important than the population's "freedom" from having to provide for them for life.
There isn't likely a single risky activity in the world that doesn't lead to problems for society in general. Those who nearly drown often times have brain damage. The simple act of crossing the street has led to severe injuries to many.

Not to mention the thousands of soldiers needlessly harmed that we will have to care for the rest of their lives. I can't fathom a country that sends young men and women to foreign countries with not even an explanation as to why to get their legs and arms blown off and then tell them if they happen to come back in one piece that they can not choose their own risk and ride without a helmet.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:44 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Sure, as soon as we stop providing welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, etc., to those who don't earn their own livings. Deal?
What I find interesting about the America-haters is how deeply they hate their fellow Americans. But I'll agree with anyone who raises the corporate welfare issues of how so many companies earn enormous profits from the government payments they receive as a result of the "welfare" programs. We know what the America-haters think about 47% of the nation .. and that's why the nation selected President Obama to continue to lead us. Easy to figure out, isn't it?
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What I find interesting about the America-haters is how deeply they hate their fellow Americans.
Yep. The hatred for fellow American motorcycle riders is very apparent in this thread.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Helmets make it safer for riders whether they are powering the bike, hanging on or in a side-car. I don't think that it is right for people not to wear helmets for their own safety.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't care if people wear helmets or not--they want to die--their business. What drives me crazy is those bumper stickers that say "Watch Out for Motorcycles," because there are motorcycle riders (with and without helmets) driving like idiots speeding and weaving in and out of traffic, especially on the interstate. They really are hard to see, even being alert with good vision. There are lots of half blind elderly retired people in Fla, and many motorcycle fatalities because people do not see them. You can have your freedom to kill yourself, but a little common sense goes a long way, and please don't make someone else responsible for your death.
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