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Old 06-11-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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North Dakota is an anomaly. There is a massive oil and natural gas boom in North Dakota. There is a labor shortage so workers are getting paid huge amounts of money for even menial jobs.
Which is the point... What happens when there is a labor surplus? What if there is a labor surplus and a price floor?
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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They were charging $5/gallon for milk 3 years ago, so they aren't going broke, but they did raise prices. Milk is $3.30 gallon at 7-11 in Chicago.
CVS has the best prices on milk in the greater Chicagoland area. Rarely is it necessary to pay more than $2.50 a gallon in the NW suburbs.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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North Dakota is an anomaly. There is a massive oil and natural gas boom in North Dakota. There is a labor shortage so workers are getting paid huge amounts of money for even menial jobs.
Not to mention that a "high wage" is relative and essentially meaningless absent the context of cost of living. As others have mentioned, Williston has some of the highest rents in the country.

Add to this the fact that pretty much nobody wants to live there. Crime is high. The massive oil boom has destroyed the city's schools and infrastructure. City government either cannot or will not cope with these problems.

So when you think about it for more than 3/5ths of a second, $17.40/hr at Walmart suddenly doesn't sound that great.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Typical boom and bust oil town - and fracking wells productivity drops off faster than conventional wells. Government will be stuck with the social and infastructure costs and debt when the drilling activity dies down.

Unconventional Oil and North Dakota Communities: State Fiscal Policy Unprepared for Impacts of Energy Development | Headwaters Economics
New Study: Oil Subsidies Waste Money, Don’t Encourage Production | The Checks and Balances Project
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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CVS has the best prices on milk in the greater Chicagoland area. Rarely is it necessary to pay more than $2.50 a gallon in the NW suburbs.
I'm in river north though.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Are we talking about the Bipartisan senate bill or something

Regardless, amnesty and reform are dead issues so it's business as usual.

Those who employ undocumented workers and consumers who benefit have nothing to worry about.
Legal amnesty and reform. But stealth amnesty and DOJ enforced reform is alive and well.

We don't need a bill as you can well see.
Illegals can come and stay and get "papers" and work and their children are guaranteed education and possibly entry into our military.

Obama got his "path to citizenship" via his EO pen and the DOJ.

So it really doesn't matter what Congress does because they are here and will not be deported.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:23 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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What government action led to Walmart paying $17/hr?
I didnt say it did. You are missing the point.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:24 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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That I agree with. The idea that low taxes and no government interference will always cause wages to rise is false, but OP didn't take that position until later in the thread.
In my opinion, he was talking it in the OP, why else would he post an article about a Wal Mart in North Dakota ?
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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What government action led to Walmart paying $17/hr?
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I didnt say it did. You are missing the point.
The point is that Walmart can afford to pay $17/hour in North Dakota. So why not everywhere?
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Free Market Principles, combined with low taxation, is the reason for this. The Government is not necessary.

Why One Walmart in North Dakota Is Paying $17.40 an Hour

"A Walmart store in Williston, N.D., is offering to pay entry-level workers as much as $17.40 per hour—nearly 2½ times the federal minimum wage—in an effort to compete in one of America’s most dynamic labor markets.
This is bad, real bad.

It's Reagan's "trickle down economics" that everyone knows doesn't work.

As soon as we get Obama's immigration push through there will be thousands of Mexican Legal Immigrants who will gladly do these jobs for $9.00.

Change!
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