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what I want to know is why non blacks need to call us out. don't white people have any problems? it becomes condescending when white folks come pointing fingers, talking about things they really don't understand, and assuming there aren't blacks who don't fit stereotypes and have already said the same things. and of course it's offensive because it's labeled as a black problem when it is a SES, lack of education, lack of resources problem
No one I know personally took issue with anything Bill Cosby has said and the OP has been told numerous times that there is a difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism. Obama and Cosby are on the constuctive side. The OP and resident City Data haters are on the destructive side.
Michelle Obama if she said this is indeed very wrong. The polling on this is very clear and concrete.
Black Americans do not think getting an education is acting white. Black children do not think getting an education is acting white. There is no black culture that says getting an education is acting white. There are no black churches, black political organizations, black elected officials, black business people, etc who will say that getting an education is acting white.
It is a fiction and a fantasy, and sadly many black Americans are blind to this racial sickness. This idea that black people are broken are messed up is deeply ingrained in American society.
Race is not real, there is not black culture in America, we are Americans. I have had discussions with people and I have attempted to get them to explain what they mean by black culture and mostly they mention rap music, or R&B or Jazz, which are American forms of music, playing sports which is American culture, wanting to be a singer, which is American culture. Soul food, which is Southern American culture etc and on and on.
So yes M. Obama is saying something dumb and incorrect about black Americans.
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Race is not real,
Race is not real ? Can you tell that to The Congressional Black Caucus and The NAACP ? They did not get the message yet, because they obviously believe race is real. They make their bread and butter off of racial identity politics.
Michelle Obama said "too many" she did not say ALL or even MOST. And she is correct. I have absolutely no issue with a word that she said in her speech.
Again, too quote what she said...
"Today, more than 150 years after the Emancipation Proclamation, more than 50 years after the end of 'separate but equal,' when it comes to getting an education, too many of our young people just can’t be bothered," she said.
"Today, instead of walking miles every day to school, they’re sitting on couches for hours, playing video games, watching TV. Instead of dreaming of being a teacher or a lawyer or a business leader, they’re fantasizing about being a baller or a rapper," Obama continued. "Right now, one in three African American students are dropping out of high school, only one in five African Americans between the ages of 25 and 29 has gotten a college degree."
But priorities should change, she said, because "getting an education is as important if not more important than it was back when this university was founded."
I don't concern myself with what another is comfortable with, the basic frame work of her speech is flat out incorrect. Again black children the vast majority of them aren't thinking education doesn't matter and this constitutes some major need of an attitude adjustment amongst black children or black people. What she is saying is vague word vomit and false.
In fact, what she is saying is so vague in that it can be applied to any group of children anywhere in this nation.
It only resonants with some when speaking about black children because we believe the racial narrative of black dysfunction, black immorality, black laziness, the idea that the black race is messed up and needs to be fixed.
The school achievement gap isn't owed to the attitudes or values of black students towards education.
The bold above - many blacks do think that - especially the ones who don't have much hope. I know because I went through this. Inner city schools in DC in the 80's - God forbid a black person speaks halfway decent English and has a vocabulary.
Robert Griffin - DC quarterback - a cornball brother I believe he was called.
You just don't know...
Pro Athlete - anything with a ball.
No, they don't and you can't supply one poll that shows that many think this way.
We only believe this out right lie about black people because we are blinded by this sick racial narrative of black dysfunction, black immorality, black laziness, black stupidity.
The idea that something is wrong with the black race pervades this nation, and that is why you believe despite zero evidence that "a lot" black people believe that getting an education is acting white.
Supply one poll that shows 10% of black people think getting an education is acting white. Please, it would be a first.
The rest of your post was an exercise in ignorance.
There are two preferred explanations for why blacks don't do as well, on average, as other groups in America:
liberal - whites are racist
conservative - blacks are lazy
Niether is true.
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"Today, more than 150 years after the Emancipation Proclamation, more than 50
years after the end of 'separate but equal,' when it comes to getting an
education, too many of our young people just can’t be bothered," she said.
"Today, instead of walking miles every day to school, they’re sitting on
couches for hours, playing video games, watching TV. Instead of dreaming of
being a teacher or a lawyer or a business leader, they’re fantasizing about
being a baller or a rapper," Obama continued.
But priorities should change, she said
With her liberal black street cred, Mrs. Obama feels free to dip into the conservative myth of the indolent black man sitting around on the porch when he could be out building a career in law or medicine. In reality, finishing law school and passing the bar exam is beyond the ability of all but the very far right end of the black IQ bell curve. Michelle herself, graduate of Princeton and Harvard Law, had trouble passing the bar in Illinois and soon gave up law for a career in diversity consulting. For most black kids, becoming a 'baller or rapper is the more realistic goal.
So when she said "reject the slander that a black child with a book is trying to act white" she was saying something dump and incorrect about black Americans?
Black children already reject the slander. She may as well say and reject the slander that a black child believing that the earth rotates around the sun is trying to act white. She might as well say reject the slander that a black child who believes in gravity is trying to act white. What she said has the same amount of relevance.
So yes she is saying something dumb and incorrect about black Americans.
This idea that black children think getting an education is acting white is demonstrably false.
Being a doctor is hard. Blacks who do try to enter med school post much lower MCAT scores, on average, than other groups. There just isn't much evidence of a large, untapped reserve of black medical talent out there.
I don't concern myself with what another is comfortable with, the basic frame work of her speech is flat out incorrect. Again black children the vast majority of them aren't thinking education doesn't matter and this constitutes some major need of an attitude adjustment amongst black children or black people. What she is saying is vague word vomit and false.
In fact, what she is saying is so vague in that it can be applied to any group of children anywhere in this nation.
It only resonants with some when speaking about black children because we believe the racial narrative of black dysfunction, black immorality, black laziness, the idea that the black race is messed up and needs to be fixed.
The school achievement gap isn't owed to the attitudes or values of black students towards education.
It is about time we stopped lying on them.
Have you actually listened to the speech because she never said anything close to "vast majority of them" or the other things you are asserting about the speech.
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