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View Poll Results: Why do 97% of scientific studies agree that climate change is manmade?
1. Consipracy 22 41.51%
2. Scientists are not as smart as average Joe 5 9.43%
3. Scientists don't believe in the bible or the rapture 26 49.06%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-18-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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And out of the 32% who had a position, approximately 0% agreed that global warming is NOT manmade.
There is no direct evidence to suggest it's not man made, there is no direct evidence suggest it is man made either.

 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Care to elaborate, public are not science either, whatever that means, why is there a discrepancy with the general public?
Science has always been controlled, case in point, Roman Catholicism's maintenance of geocentrism.

Or, for something more atheist, Lysenkoism.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Science has always been controlled,....
I think most people are under the impression science is beyond politics when in fact it's about as political as it gets at all levels. It's a cut throat business, yes I said business.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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I imagine that the reason so few answered the poll was because they knew it wasn't any more of a serious scientific study than this poll.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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Don I have an important scientific video for you to watch on the numbers you and this journalists are trying to use:


AC/DC - Shot Down In Flames - YouTube
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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So if only the U.S. is taking action what difference does it make.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Illuminati, Obama, Communist conspiracy, paid off?

Why isn't there as much consensus in the non scientific community, what is with the discrepancy?

Is it that non scientists are smarter than scientists?

97 percent of scientific studies agree on manmade global warming, so what now?
Let's say they are right, which I don't believe totally: what are we going to do about it? Shall we go back to horse and buggies? Would we like to give up all our modern day conveniences? of course not. Evolution will always to a factors in climate changes. Yes, of course humans have added to the problem, but what do you want to bet our grandparents and great grandparents said the same things. even science isn't proven. Take, for instance, the latest claim: we would be better off going gluten free and giving up wheat? How many years were we told, only use wheat flour? I think, most intelligent people know everything is a combination of many things. We must also, learn to read with an open mind. Too many only see the side they want to see. 97% did not say climate control is totally man made.
Nita
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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So if only the U.S. is taking action what difference does it make.
I had this thought well for the last several decades. Sure USA is greener but we are just shifting pollution and jobs to be made elsewhere like India and China.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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I had this thought well for the last several decades. Sure USA is greener but we are just shifting pollution and jobs to be made elsewhere like India and China.
China burns 4 to 5 times the amount of coal we do. Within the last decade alone their annunal consumption has increased as much as our total annual consumption.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Illuminati, Obama, Communist conspiracy, paid off?

Why isn't there as much consensus in the non scientific community, what is with the discrepancy?

Is it that non scientists are smarter than scientists?

97 percent of scientific studies agree on manmade global warming, so what now?
This headline seems deliberately misleading. NM that they are telling you the very specific studies topic phrase, or that you have no idea about who did the studies, their details, their funding source or that the conclusions are as this study states. Just on it's surface which is all it appears to be seems to clearly have a bias. Then when you look at the details of how this study was done there are even further questions.

Here is the Abstract on the study they are discussing.
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Abstract

We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11 944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming. Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming. In a second phase of this study, we invited authors to rate their own papers. Compared to abstract ratings, a smaller percentage of self-rated papers expressed no position on AGW (35.5%). Among self-rated papers expressing a position on AGW, 97.2% endorsed the consensus. For both abstract ratings and authors' self-ratings, the percentage of endorsements among papers expressing a position on AGW marginally increased over time. Our analysis indicates that the number of papers rejecting the consensus on AGW is a vanishingly small proportion of the published research.

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