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View Poll Results: Why do 97% of scientific studies agree that climate change is manmade?
1. Consipracy 22 41.51%
2. Scientists are not as smart as average Joe 5 9.43%
3. Scientists don't believe in the bible or the rapture 26 49.06%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-26-2013, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Originally Posted by Think4Yourself View Post
Except not a single peer reviewed paper on global cooling was ever published. Not a single one. Are you even bright enough to know the difference between the peer review process and pop culture magazines? It sure doesn't seem that way thus your stupid posts.
Who cares if a peer review paper was published or not. That does not change the fact that the same poeple that claimed cooling was happening now claim climate change is happening.

In between they warned us about urban sprawl, overpopulation, red M&Ms, acid rain, deforestation, warming, the ozone layer and many other calamities that were not real......but they are right this time? lols. And the solution is always the same. More money and power.

Do you know the difference bewtween science and a money/power grab? It sure doesn't seem that way thus your stupid posts.

 
Old 05-26-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
Illuminati, Obama, Communist conspiracy, paid off?

Why isn't there as much consensus in the non scientific community, what is with the discrepancy?

Is it that non scientists are smarter than scientists?

97 percent of scientific studies agree on manmade global warming, so what now?
scientists make a living off grant money. the need these "studies" for employment.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by thecoalman View Post
Does having insulation in your house trap heat? The simple answer is yes but if your windows are wide open that heat trapping ability becomes largely irrelevant. You mention greenhouse gases and particulate matter in the same sentence, these have opposite effects in the atmosphere.

There is numerous variables that combine to effect climate, CO2 is only one of them.
So yes or no?
 
Old 05-26-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by Nomander View Post
Credibility does not validate or invalidate a given claim. Ones reputation does not establish their position as correct or incorrect. Not only is such completely unscientific, but it is also a logical fallacy. Science is not a process of who is the most reputable. Logical argument evaluation is not a process of picking the most trustworthy speaker.

A statement can be evaluated to its validity. It can be shown to be valid or invalid, sound or unsound. Science is a process of verification, validation, and replication. That is, ones hypothesis is shown to consistently be true through results and those results can be replicated by another independently through consistent result as well. In science, results are everything, opinions are irrelevant.

Not only is your premise invalid, but it is misleading because you also dismiss the qualifications of a source based on an opinion of the source that is also not validated (ie McIntyre worked for mineral research, ergo he is lying). It is an accusation of reputation that is completely useless.

A liar can still state a fact, an honest person a lie, an expert a falsehood, and a laymen a fact. If we operate by your premise, we would never know because you establish validity based on an evaluation that has no bearing on the correctness of a given claim.

Frankly, your premise is not only invalid, it is intellectually absurd. Where on earth did you learn such a complete falsehood? Honestly, I am shocked to think one can have even a basic college education and state such a position. It is contrary to every aspect of logical thought. It defies the most basic principals of logic education that is learned from any entry level logic, philosophy, or scientific course. The ignorance of such a claim is astounding.
So you have no problem getting information from non credible institutions or organizations?
 
Old 05-26-2013, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Why was there global warming before man was on the planet? These same scientific studies say it is too late to do anything about global warming. So what is the purpose of this movement? More taxes and more government control. Why is that option not in the poll?
 
Old 05-26-2013, 08:24 PM
 
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Why was there global warming before man was on the planet? These same scientific studies say it is too late to do anything about global warming. So what is the purpose of this movement? More taxes and more government control. Why is that option not in the poll?

There was never global warming of this extent and rapidity.




Yes, the last ice age started thawing over 20,000 years ago, but that stopped a long time ago | Grist
 
Old 05-26-2013, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Japan
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There was never global warming of this extent and rapidity.
Actually there have been periods with much more warming in the past, but yes as far as we know it has never happened in a matter of decades or even hundreds of years.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Why was there global warming before man was on the planet?
Find out. Don't just smugly assume there is no answer to your question.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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And in the 60s there was never overpopulation of this extent and rapidity.

And in the 70s there was never global cooling of this extent and rapidity.

And in the 80s there was never acid rain, urban sprawl and ozone depletion of this extent and rapidity.

Oh wait, those were wrong predictions. And its the same people warning us about warming. Or is it climate change? lols.

I'm sure they are right this time. Just keep giving them awards and money. lols.
 
Old 05-26-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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So you have no problem getting information from non credible institutions or organizations?
That is what you got from that? Really?

Let me be clear, because apparently that went WAY over your head.

It is simple...

It is not WHO says it, it is WHAT is being said. If someone disregards something because of WHO is saying it without any attention to WHAT is being said, then... well... they are an idiot. Period.

As I said, ones reputation, authority, or status does not validate their position, it is the strength of their argument that does. Deny that, and... well... one is either a moron or of devious intent.
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