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they should be forced to go to the welfare office and pick up the cash on a weekly basis. call it a "walk of shame." welfare should be embarrassing to be on, and that embarrassment should be an incentive to get off of it. this debit card faceless welfare system is a nightmare.
Can't really see how that would be a 'walk of shame' because all the other people there would also be on welfare,
or be staff.
It's not an incentive either, because once on welfare then who cares?
If I were on welfare, then I wouldn't give a flying **** what other people thought - just get me check and be on me way.
I know of pastors and priests who've gently sat down with really low income families and individuals and told them that they give so much time and energy to the church that they shouldn't worry about tithing as well--that they're a wonderful part of the congregation who already contributes so much that money isn't necessary. There ARE loving churches out there.
And I remember my Dad, who was dirt-poor his whole life and lived on Social Security after having to retire at 62 due to blindness, who never took a vacation in his life, who I never remember even eating out at a restaurant, handing $50 bills to each Catholic priest at the rectory next door to give them "spending money" for the winters they spent in Florida.
They knew damn well he couldn't afford the $20 a week he put in the poor box, let alone the $150 for the 3 priests at the summer-only church, but did they EVER tell him to keep his money? NOT A CHANCE.
I thought this question was interesting, given the complaints that aid recipients buy lottery tix, steaks, expensive seafood, cigarettes, alcohol, and sweets.
So how about church? Surely many congregations are packed with poor welfare recipients! And it's safe to say that many of them pay a small tithe.
Any complaints about that?
I have one. Since the Lord will provide, why are they being paid anything?
Should Welfare recipients be allowed to give money to their churches?
Absolutely.
As a practical matter, there would be no way to police any prohibition.
So they should be allowed to do it only because there is no to prevent it?
That's interesting. Applying that logic to other things could be troublesome.
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No, they are not.
Really?
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No they shouldn't be able to give to a church. It is public money that should support basic living needs.
Welfare shouldn't be given in cash. These people have showed no financial discipline. They should be supplied with basic generic living supplies, food, medical supplies, etc.
Being on welfare is a sign of either bad luck or bad decisions. It doesn't always say anything about financial responsibility.
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And I remember my Dad, who was dirt-poor his whole life and lived on Social Security after having to retire at 62 due to blindness, who never took a vacation in his life, who I never remember even eating out at a restaurant, handing $50 bills to each Catholic priest at the rectory next door to give them "spending money" for the winters they spent in Florida.
They knew damn well he couldn't afford the $20 a week he put in the poor box, let alone the $150 for the 3 priests at the summer-only church, but did they EVER tell him to keep his money? NOT A CHANCE.
Of course they didn't.
Like I said before, I've NEVER ONCE heard a church leader make a proclamation that the poor should stop giving money to the church until they can better afford to do so.
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I have one. Since the Lord will provide, why are they being paid anything?
Yep...go figure. The Lord sure as hell takes good care of these pastors.
I've never belonged to a church that "demanded" tithing. We have envelopes to pledge for the year, but nothing is said to those who don't. The congregation contributes because they want to support the church and the good works they can do through it. Wealthier people give more, and poor people and young families give less. My husband is on our church board, and we have families who may not give financially, but they're always there to help and support. Wealthier people make up the difference, and it all works out in the end to pay salaries and take care of the building, etc. That's what a church family should be--everyone doing their part, but sometimes in different ways.
I don't disagree.
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