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Originally Posted by green_mariner
Actually, I was calling into account a very serious fallacy. The biggest beneficiary of affirmative action is White females.
I was demonstrating to you that affirmative action doesn't work, and that Blacks still get discriminated against.
And no, I did not expect to get the job simply for being Black. I was hoping that someone would hire me because I have the education. However, out of my cohort, I'm the only one unemployed. My point was to prove to you that if Blacks are "so privileged" we would have lower unemployment rates than we do now.
the best thing people of color in america can do is to develop a strong DYI ethic. I never expect to get a break. I out think and out smart and out perform my competition.
Business acts responsibly when it hires the most qualified. To do this they look at many things, knowledge, experience, attitude and other important factors. There is nothing that can cause problems in running a business than an employee who thinks they are owed, who has an attitude problem thinking they deserve special treatment because of their color. No one, white, black, yellow, red, is owed a job. Business is not a social group. Business must serve their customers as best they can and bad attitudes will cause problem in doing this.
I did not expect any kind of affirmative action. I was hoping that I would be hired based on education. I know people who have no more experience than I do, and they were able to get jobs. And tell me this. How can you tell if those businesses think I have an attitude? I didn't present any kind of attitude when I handed my resume and cover letters in. I was polite as I could be, to the point of kissing up. You know nothing about me at all.
the best thing people of color in america can do is to develop a strong DYI ethic. I never expect to get a break. I out think and out smart and out perform my competition.
stop whining and roll up your sleeves, boy.
I didn't expect to get a break either. I just go out there and try my best. There is something I do have to say. I don't consider myself whining. I consider discrimination a legitimate issue.
And I have considered starting my own business. I just need the resources for it. I am not saying I shouldn't have a DIY attitude. I'm saying there is alot that I need before starting a business.
I did not expect any kind of affirmative action. I was hoping that I would be hired based on education. I know people who have no more experience than I do, and they were able to get jobs. And tell me this. How can you tell if those businesses think I have an attitude? I didn't present any kind of attitude when I handed my resume and cover letters in. I was polite as I could be, to the point of kissing up. You know nothing about me at all.
You are what you think and it shows whether you realize it or not.
I didn't expect to get a break either. I just go out there and try my best. There is something I do have to say. I don't consider myself whining. I consider discrimination a legitimate issue.
And I have considered starting my own business. I just need the resources for it. I am not saying I shouldn't have a DIY attitude. I'm saying there is alot that I need before starting a business.
Starting a business doing what? You are complaining that you need alot to start, didn't Obama say "you didn't build that" insinuating that it was because of government? So why isn't government helping you?
You are what you think and it shows whether you realize it or not.
How am I what I think? Explain. I think I'm a reasonable person. I don't give any attitude to anyone in public. I try to be polite and quiet. I don't smile alot, but I only smile when I feel like it. I just try and be harmless. I'm basically like Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air minus the dance and the smile.
Starting a business doing what? You are complaining that you need alot to start, didn't Obama say "you didn't build that" insinuating that it was because of government? So why isn't government helping you?
Because I don't look to the government for helping me start a business. Why do you expect me to look to the government for help? Banks normally give out business loans.
I wanted to do a few things. I have a book I have been working on. I'm not done, but when I'm done, I want to publish it myself, no agents, just me. And I have been working on my cartographic skills over the last month, trying to keep it up, and I'm working on Python. I know I can use that in mapping and GIS.
Anyone, as long as I don't have the advantage of owning a business, I am looking for work.
How am I what I think? Explain. I think I'm a reasonable person. I don't give any attitude to anyone in public. I try to be polite and quiet. I don't smile alot, but I only smile when I feel like it. I just try and be harmless. I'm basically like Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air minus the dance and the smile.
Yes, sometimes I can see that you are reasonable. Hey at least you want to work, just lose the negative thoughts about not getting a job because you are black. It shows regardless of what you think and no employer wants to work with someone who pulls the race card. You don't have to kiss ass and that is wrong to feel that you have to.
Instead of going to an interview thinking you need a job realize that your needs are not their concern. Yes that sounds cold but no matter who you are it is a fact. The attitude is interest in the company, what you bring to the table. When you go on an interview you are trying to sell your service. Also realize that when you go on an interview you are also interviewing the company.
Maybe get a book on how to present yourself in the best way possible. Anyone needing a job is at a disadvantage because the competition is stiff. It is an employers market and those employers are also nervous about the things that are happening in this country.
Just remember, when an employer hires they are taking a risk and hoping you will be a excellent part of the team.
How am I what I think? Explain. I think I'm a reasonable person. I don't give any attitude to anyone in public. I try to be polite and quiet. I don't smile alot, but I only smile when I feel like it. I just try and be harmless. I'm basically like Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air minus the dance and the smile.
One more thing. You are in a very difficult economy. Instead of blaming outside things, look at yourself and see what you may be doing wrong. I worked at a company with black and white co-workers and I have to say, that owner picked their employees well. We worked together to get the job done and that's what it's about.
You really want to work, I can read it in your words. You want to do the right thing and provide for yourself and your future family. You and me are more alike than you think. Just don't let the neigh sayers give you an excuse.
Keep trying and you will find one. I wish you success because someone who is not afraid of work (and is minus attitude) deserves it.
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