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Old 05-22-2013, 09:05 AM
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I don't think the objection is to the Tea Party in principle. Who really opposes a non-intrusive government that's fiscally responsible?

The objection is to the Tea Party in practice. It's morphed into little more than a bunch of angry old white people screaming about nothing in particular except that Obama is evil and occasionally fantasizing about committing acts of violence (see a couple posts above). The Tea Party politicians have proven themselves to be just as big government authoritarian as other right wingers. The only difference is that they're also exceptionally fiscally irresponsible and terrible at basic arithmetic. The Tea Party caucus is nothing more than a gathering of the most extreme, dumbest members of congress.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Unlike tea party types, I voted third party.

Said it before and I'll say it again. Obama has made many mistakes, but calling him a monkey who doles out welfare is not going to win any sane person over.

But by all means, wear your stupid outfits with the teabags hanging. It's a free nation
My Tea bag holds .45 acp bub.

The real point was to grab your quote calling Obama a monkey... I just love it when a liberal moron steps on his own tongue.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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I support the original TEA Party movement of the 1970s. I do not support what this new generation of "tea party" thieves are doing in its name.
It's everyone into the game of thieves now? The whole game is what's in it for me right?

I don't like that game a bit, and won't play on either side.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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Exactly. This is what I have been trying to say, but it is like talking to a wall. The Tea Party existed well before 2009, and Ron Paul was one of the main founders AND it was created to oppose the out of control spending of the Bush admin. Paul was as strongly opposed to Bush's economic policy (spend, spend spend, borrow, borrow, borrow), and his approach to "fixing" the economic fiasco as he is with Obama's approach, but then again, Bush and Obama aproaches are identical, so it would be hypocritical to support one and oppose the other.
Where you in 2008 running against obama? how about the house and senate. it wasn't until 2010 when you guys arrived in washington. there were crickets in the races for the house and senate in 2008, but as soon as 2010 rolled around, you guys came out from under the rocks.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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Wrong, wrong, wrong again. The reason my husband and I got involved in the Tea Party (pre-2008) is to fight against Hillary getting the nomination. At the time, we thought having her brand of big government, socialist ideology and complete ignorance about foreign policy would destroy this country. How is that being racist?

Sadly, we got something far worse....
oh please, what about during his first years in office. obama is office less than two months, and I hear that crackpot on CNBC. Where was his rant during the bush years. where was michelle bachmann, where was sara palin. They didn't exist. Obama comes in office, all of sudden, tea party groups pop of everywhere. during bush, not peep. Obama shows up, all hell breaks lose.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Where you in 2008 running against obama? how about the house and senate. it wasn't until 2010 when you guys arrived in washington. there were crickets in the races for the house and senate in 2008, but as soon as 2010 rolled around, you guys came out from under the rocks.
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oh please, what about during his first years in office. obama is office less than two months, and I hear that crackpot on CNBC. Where was his rant during the bush years. where was michelle bachmann, where was sara palin. They didn't exist. Obama comes in office, all of sudden, tea party groups pop of everywhere. during bush, not peep. Obama shows up, all hell breaks lose.
The original Tea Party was born out of Ron Paul's 2008 Presidential run as a protest against Bush and his administration's policies.

Ron Paul's tea party for dollars - 2008 Presidential Campaign Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com
Daily Kos: Ron Paul Supporters Plan $10M Tea Party


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Old 05-22-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Where you in 2008 running against obama? how about the house and senate. it wasn't until 2010 when you guys arrived in washington. there were crickets in the races for the house and senate in 2008, but as soon as 2010 rolled around, you guys came out from under the rocks.
Like I said, I walked away from TP in 2009, when it departed from its original form and was transferred into something dishonest. The numbers in 2008 were small, and most Republicans did not agree with the movement, and instead supported McCain, who was pro-bailout and pro-spending. It didn't become hip to be against spending ang big government until the Dems were in the WH, which kind of highlights the problem with hypocricy.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Where you in 2008 running against obama? how about the house and senate. it wasn't until 2010 when you guys arrived in washington. there were crickets in the races for the house and senate in 2008, but as soon as 2010 rolled around, you guys came out from under the rocks.
Ron in 2008; Bush still in office:


Ron Paul on President Bush's Statement. Oct. 10, 2008. - YouTube

Ron in 2007:


Texas Republican slams Bush "demented philosophy of conquest - YouTube
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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Right, and the GOP hated comments like that because it insulted their efforts to support Bush policies by any means possible.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The growing deficit has largely been because we are in a recession and GDP has not grown as it should. Also tax revenues have been low because of all the previous decades tax cuts for the rich.


Previous decade's tax cuts for the rich are causing trillion dollar deficits today?

NBER: Recession Over in June 2009 - Real Time Economics - WSJ
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