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Old 05-22-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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I don't think MSNBC claims to be anything but political commentary.
I'm just pointing it out, it seems a lot of people can't or don't differentiate between political commentary and the news. On the other hand that line is not very well drawn.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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Many claim that the media has a liberal bias. Do you agree or disagree?


If you agree, why would journalists be left-leaning? How would such political ideologies benefit them professionally?
Also, is it a chicken and egg matter? In other words, are left-minded people more likely to enter the journalism profession, or does the profession itself influence one's political leanings?


If you disagree, why are so many people convinced that the media is biased? What do you suppose is behind it all (propaganda machine, political correctness, etc)? Is thhatere enough ideological diversity in the media?

These people are the same radical leftists we once referred to as hippies.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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if you actually read / listened to the article it does come to the conclusion that papers like the NYT are overly biased and thus should take action to correct that bias.


Of course the Bias isn't to Rush LImbaugh levels, but its there.
I was talking about assigning liberals the score of 100 and conservatives 0. It's ironic.


The news being reported by the NYT should have no slant as it should from any source touting themselves as news. Rush can say whatever the hell he feels as he's not touting himself as the news.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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Admittedly a right wing source but the points are valid.The first part has to be one of the worst examples media bias there is.


Afterburner: The Cost of Media Bias - YouTube
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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The politically flavored channels, Fox News and MSNBC, are openly biased.
Politically flavored channels? This isn't what was asked.

The question: Is Media Liberal Biased?

95% of mainstream media is liberally biased, from sitcoms to news. Hollywood is unabashedly liberal and they control and influence EVERYTHING WE WATCH. I find it laughable that a liberal would have the audacity to claim that only FOX and talk radio are biased. This shows how liberals believe themselves the definition of "normal", and anyone who disagrees with them are the biased ones. Progressives don't even bother to look at issues impartially anymore, because their opinions should be everyone's opinions.

Since FOX is the only mainstream channel that isn't liberal, the answer is an obvious YES.

Here's a test: How many conservative (non-religious) mainstream cable and air channels can you name? Now, how many liberal leaning channels can you name?

If the first is less than the latter, then media is liberal biased.

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Old 05-22-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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Many claim that the media has a liberal bias. Do you agree or disagree?


If you agree, why would journalists be left-leaning? How would such political ideologies benefit them professionally?
Also, is it a chicken and egg matter? In other words, are left-minded people more likely to enter the journalism profession, or does the profession itself influence one's political leanings?


If you disagree, why are so many people convinced that the media is biased? What do you suppose is behind it all (propaganda machine, political correctness, etc)? Is there enough ideological diversity in the media?
Why be left leaning? Its the path of least resistance. Go with the flow instead of being shouted down by a gazzilion bottom feeders.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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I think nowadays true exposes and news comes from independent documentary filmakers such as the movie on rape and sexual assault in the military "The Invisible War" or "The House I Live In" about the effects of America's drug control policies.

It wasn't until the film "The Invisible War" came out that Pentagon leaders were spurred to do something about rampant sexual assault in the military. Neither the right nor left-wing media was covering that story.

Nor has any media given much coverage to the collapse of the Bangladesh garment factory which killed 1,128 people. That's because to do so would mean exposing all the North American retailers who are involved.

To me what is most evident in news is not a right or left-wing slant, it's a view that doesn't question the dominance of corporations, nor the lunacy of the free market. Corporate interests rule and decide what constitutes news, unless you are a complete outsider like Ralph Nader.

As Ralph Nader said in a recent column, "Maybe we need a 24/7 documentary cable channel with a citizen action focus..."

http://nader.org/2013/05/22/more-exposes-less-action/
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Where did anybody ever get the notion that media should have no bias? It is a silly proposition from the start. They are corporations. Their duty is to the shareholders.

What I want is somebody to present all sides of a question, give the pros and cons and let everybody pick a side. That is not the job of the media. It is the job of the political parties and our congresspeople. Whatever happened to thou shall not bear false witness? The same people who want the 10 commandments in every town square, go on tv and lie like a dog all day every day.

The media reports what they are told. There is no such thing as investigative reporting anymore. It cost too much.

Four or 5 people own all the media. The magazines at the check out counters at the grocery to the Christian Science Monitor. That's a pretty wide space.

Fox says they are fair and balanced. MSNBC never claimed to be unbiased. Pretty much sum it up.

My problem with Fox is the news is one thing, but they have the most low life, anti family programming on their other tv stations. Makes me wonder about their news channel.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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I think nowadays true exposes and news comes from independent documentary filmakers such as the movie on rape and sexual assault in the military "The Invisible War" or "The House I Live In" about the effects of America's drug control policies.
They are just as bias as anyone else, can you say "An inconvenient Truth"?

"Gasland" is certainly one of the most widely seen documentaries and the video of water burning is easily the most provocative part of that film that is going to leave an impression.


Gasland director hides full facts - YouTube

If you're supposed to be doing a documentary is that acceptable to hide and ignore historical facts?
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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From what I've seen. . .it is being conservative is just as easy. Conservative means just keep doing it the way we always did it. Don't change a thing. History works. That is a simple and powerful clutch to fall back on.
The liberal answer to any issue is to expand government, "let government take care of that." If some problem is cited, and it's already under dome government program, libs just increase government funding to it, and expand it's reach and power even more.

We did not address the underlying issue for increasing health care costs, we just told government to expand further into health care and take it over.

When is the last time a liberal progressive saw a problem, and did not think the answer to it was more government involvement, more taxpayer funding?

Being a conservative does not mean being reluctant to change, or to keep doing the same thing over and over again. It's been conservatives who have wanted to change our income tax system, save social security etc... so that they actually work. The liberal answer is to keep those things they way they are. It's been the conservatives who look at the results of these government programs, and hold government accountable for failure, fraud, waste and abuse.
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