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Old 05-23-2013, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Well, the welfare druggies don't need to come to KS: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/ap...ts-see-it-has/ because we are one step ahead of them. There will be a third party set-up to look after the interests of the children. We were living in a neighborhood where a crack house had operated and still is operating for 25 years and welfare weekend saw unbelievable traffic with some having their kids in the car. Don't tell me how horrible this will be for kids with drug addicted parents. Those parents who pimp their kids and sell kiddie porn of their own children, step children and children of those they shack up with not to mention that I have heard that incest is a problem because when you are stoned, one warm body is just as good/bad as any other. I am glad they are going to do this. The drug traffic runs for about the first two weeks of the month, then they shoplift and return for cash and steal from cars and yards to support their habits. War on drugs is a joke because it has become an "industry" in America because, what if we could stop the illegal drugs? How many cushy jobs end, all that federal, state and local funding. I have seen it. I lived watching the drugs run for 6 years until we moved. I heard what the authorities had to say. I watched nothing being done. This is what the people want and the state governments are listening.
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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I still cannot wrap my head around the opposition to drug testing to get benefits. If I am expected to submit to drug testing to do my job to earn my pay, from which taxes are taken to bankroll the benefits program, then on what planet is it somehow unfair to expect the recipients of these benefits to pass a drug test?
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:02 AM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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I still cannot wrap my head around the opposition to drug testing to get benefits. If I am expected to submit to drug testing to do my job to earn my pay, from which taxes are taken to bankroll the benefits program, then on what planet is it somehow unfair to expect the recipients of these benefits to pass a drug test?
I haven't read any post asking "What about the children" of the worker who gets fired for testing positive for drugs.

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Old 05-23-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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I believe that EBT cards are for strict use, like only for food and there is some cash on it, but a limited amount. People are always running out of money or misjudging how much they have. The ones that make me mad are the ones that spend all their food stamps and then go spend two-hundred dollars on movies and other junk they don't need.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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I haven't read any post asking "What about the children" of the worker who gets fired for testing positive for drugs.

I agree. I also don't understand the assumption that irresponsible parents who are abusing drugs are somehow still making sure their children have food to eat. Especially when the schools are providing 2-3 meals a day for them. Drugs cost money, and if they don't have cash they at least have something of value in the EBT that can be sold or bartered for drugs or cash.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I say go for it and to the poor kids whose Mom just lost the welfare because getting high is more important than taking care of her kids, the kids probably already receive free breakfast, lunch and in soem places dinner from the school.
I fail to see why getting high is verboten, but getting drunk is not.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:23 PM
 
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I haven't read any post asking "What about the children" of the worker who gets fired for testing positive for drugs.

Exactly.

I never even thought about that.

We productive people are not important to the left....except for our tax dollars.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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I fail to see why getting high is verboten, but getting drunk is not.
Drugs stay in the system with longer lasting effects.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Location: Location
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I fail to see why getting high is verboten, but getting drunk is not.
Perhaps it's because drugs are illegal while alcohol is not? It is impossible to "teach" people how to parent when they are substance-abusers, because their only interest is the substance.

Random, unannounced testing, such as is done in the federal fire department(s) might be a deterrent in some few cases.

The problem is, the welfare system has made dependency more attractive than productivity. I have no idea how to fix it. Or even if it can be fixed.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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We demand that people be drug free but refuse to pay for rehab... yeah that makes sense.

Same rules for alcoholics?

Even prisons are more enlightened.
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