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Old 05-24-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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That can be solved though education and easy access to birth control and condoms, go figure.
So now its more difficult for minorities to obtain birth control? Wow, the things I learn from you kooks...
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Poor economies almost always lead to lower birth rates.

The fertility rate dropped in the United States during the 1930s.

It also dropped in the former Soviet countries.

Even though capitalists were not allowed to provide cheap, effective birth control like they are today.

When kids become an economic liability people stop having them. Go figure.
We also live in a different era, people no longer have 5-7 children, thus the fertility rate is going to be lower.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I don't doubt that this is true for adults who have more fully formed critical thinking skills. But we are talking about teens.
Or are you suggesting that even teens can make thoughtful choices about their economic futures, not to mention actually control their sexual urges and fertility?

Gee, that might mean that teens aren't the irresponsible drains on society so many try to make them out to be.
Teens have made family planning decisions and economic decisions in the past.

It's only the last 100 year or so that we have babied people until they are 22 and out of college.

Personally, I think this is a bad thing. Not meaning 15 year olds should have babies. I think teens should have more economic and educational freedoms than we allow them.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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I don't doubt that this is true for adults who have more fully formed critical thinking skills. But we are talking about teens.
Or are you suggesting that even teens can make thoughtful choices about their economic futures, not to mention actually control their sexual urges and fertility?

Gee, that might mean that teens aren't the irresponsible drains on society so many try to make them out to be.
Do you think teens live alone, or are they more likely to live with their parents in tough economic times and listen to their parents input about not being able to afford to raise children?

Didnt we also have record number of abortions during the same period?

Shocking that more abortions would result in less births, ha?
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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We also live in a different era, people no longer have 5-7 children, thus the fertility rate is going to be lower.
Their only having more abortions than ever.. Yaa success..

Planned Parenthood Sets Record for Abortions and Government Funding
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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We also live in a different era, people no longer have 5-7 children, thus the fertility rate is going to be lower.
One of the reasons people don't have as many kids today is because kids are an economic liability.

In more rural societies of the past they were an economic asset.

It's called the Demographic Transition.

As a society becomes more wealthy they have less kids.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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When I and my girls friends were teens back in the paleolithic we did not want to have or raise kids so we took care to avoid the problem with the best pre birth control pill technoliogy available. It must have worked because I did not start any kids. We did not resist any of our urges.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Most teens I know live with their parents who dont want to be responsible to raise babies. The worse the economy, the more teens living with parents.

I'm used to you not thinking
But I thought that the government gives free housing and all sorts of other free stuff to teen parents. Why don't these kids want to take advantage of the freebies?

You make it sound like kids actually care what their parents think about these matters. That can't be true, can it?
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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One of the reasons people don't have as many kids today is because kids are an economic liability.

In more rural societies of the past they were an economic asset.

It's called the Demographic Transition.

As a society becomes more wealthy they have less kids.
That is correct.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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But I thought that the government gives free housing and all sorts of other free stuff to teen parents. Why don't these kids want to take advantage of the freebies?

You make it sound like kids actually care what their parents think about these matters. That can't be true, can it?
Are you denying that government hands out hundreds of billions of dollars in aid to assist the poor?

Are you also ignoring that if children live with their parents then their parents income is what matters when raising the babies and not the teens? Are you suggesting teenagers should leave their parents home, just so they can get handouts?
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