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Old 05-24-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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See that 236.2 M bubble? It's called a surplus. Not a deficit.

FactCheck.org : The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton

Clearly, you don't know the difference between a deficit and debt.

Laughing at you. Not with you.
See that $236.2M bubble, thats ONLY Public debt, not intragovernmental debt.. Its like calculating what you spend, and ignoring your wifes spending..

Clearly an idiot would do such a thing, and to backup me being correct, lets go to the governments own accounting office in charge of calculating the debt

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

Care to tell me what year surpluses existed?

You can laugh all you want, but that doesnt make you right.
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Another structurally obsolete bridge collapses! ... Naw, we don't need no infrastructure spending.

I-5 bridge collapses north of Seattle - latimes.com
You mean one of those high-priced public safety engineers didn't see this coming and close the bridge?
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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You mean one of those high-priced public safety engineers didn't see this coming and close the bridge?
I actually believe they gave a warning about the bridge. I heard engineers rated the bridge around 52, and the average bridge in the state has a rating of 80..

Obama decided though to give millions to Microsoft to build a bridge on their campus.
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: South Portland, Maine
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Another structurally obsolete bridge collapses! ... Naw, we don't need no infrastructure spending.

I-5 bridge collapses north of Seattle - latimes.com
16 trillion in debt.. why didn't that go to infrastructure?

And for all the whining I hear about big oil and their profits and how the government should tax them... well what the heck is our gas tax for if not for maintaining our roads.. I bet the government is making more per gallon in gas tax then the oil companies in profit
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I actually believe they gave a warning about the bridge. I heard engineers rated the bridge around 52, and the average bridge in the state has a rating of 80..

Obama decided though to give millions to Microsoft to build a bridge on their campus.
So they knowingly left a defective bridge open?
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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16 trillion in debt.. why didn't that go to infrastructure?

And for all the whining I hear about big oil and their profits and how the government should tax them... well what the heck is our gas tax for if not for maintaining our roads.. I bet the government is making more per gallon in gas tax then the oil companies in profit
Much more.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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I actually believe they gave a warning about the bridge. I heard engineers rated the bridge around 52, and the average bridge in the state has a rating of 80..

Obama decided though to give millions to Microsoft to build a bridge on their campus.
A truck hit the bridge. A ship hit the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in Florida and it collapsed. When large, heavy objects strike bridges, they can collapse.

Thank Tim Eyman, who championed the $35 car tab in Washington and left the state without funds to fix their roads.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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The Bush tax cuts, two unfunded wars and an unfunded Medicare program are "largely irrelevant"??? Please. That's absurd.
Sorry I thought we were discussing the deficit that ballooned in 2009.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Another structurally obsolete bridge collapses! ... Naw, we don't need no infrastructure spending.

I-5 bridge collapses north of Seattle - latimes.com
Somehow this proves that the wealthy need more tax cuts.
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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So they knowingly left a defective bridge open?
According to the federal government, there are some 67K bridges that are defective but open

Bridge collapse shines light on aging infrastructure

In 2012, the Federal Highway Administration said 67,000 — 11% — of the nation's 607,000 bridges were structurally deficient. That means the bridges are not unsafe but must be closely monitored and inspected or repaired.
That percentage is little changed since 2007 when 12% of the nation's bridges were listed as structurally deficient and the I-35 bridge collapsed in Minneapolis.

It gets even worse. From the story, the bridge that collapsed was allowed to stay open even though its rating was 47 (not 52 as I previously thought),

The bridge, which was inspected last August and November, had a sufficiency rating of 47 out of 100 at its November 2012 inspection, state Transportation Department spokesman Noel Brady said Friday. The state average is 80, according to an Associated Press analysis.

And to top it off.

The bridge was not classified as structurally deficient, but a Federal Highway Administration database listed it as being "functionally obsolete" — a category for bridges whose design is outdated, such as having narrow shoulders and low clearance underneath.

This bridge isnt even deficient, which makes me wonder how bad the other 67K bridges are?
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