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Old 05-24-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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I"ll bet none of you Dems remember Ed Muskie, do you? There was a reason George McGovern got the nomination of the Democratic party in 1972.

There was more to Richard Nixon than Watergate. There was a whole boatload of 'dirty tricks'.

Look it up.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:36 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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Sour grapes, Romney lost, no amount of crying, moaning, or bellyaching will change that.

You guys are really bad losers.
Especially when there are too many people that were easy pickings. Don are you one of the easy pickings? Real men don't live off the government teet.

Takers are attaching themselves permanently to the government tit, and they feel no guilt or shame as they scream for more. Obama knows them and and takes advantage of every opportunity to stoke the fires.

In due course, simple mathematics will dictate that we can't afford to keep able bodied men and women on the dole. There will be hell to pay.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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No....the whole point was to get Romney, the bought RINO, the nomination.
He was going to get it anyway. The Tea Party isn't nearly as significant as you think they are. If they were, wouldn't they be taking to the streets now and rallying until they lost their voices over these so-called scandals? Where is everyone? Other than a few angry posts on some message boards, there doesn't seem to be anything going on. The Tea Party is ancient history. They drew a few crowds, they whined a little, they spit at some blacks and called them names; then they went home and called it quits. The End.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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1. the IRS director was a Bush appointee and the people fire under him where all hired under the Bush adminstration

2. What Lie, did the president claim they died in a car crash ?

3. No one's first amendment right was violated. You do not have a right to leak classified information, anyone who does so knows full well they will face jail time.

You conservatives need to take a couple of minutes and think instead of just attacking the president because you are on the other side.
1) It doesn't matter who appointed this person, it was under the Obama administration that these abuses happened. Just because they were appointed by Bush doesn't excuse Obama in this matter, or should we go after Bush for this? Bush hasn't been POTUS for 6 years, leave it to you guys to blame someone else, how Obama like you are.

2) Lie like they didn't know what was happening and then blame it on a video. Pull your head out of the sand and take a look around you.

3) Yes, go after the person who leaked the info, not the person who reports it.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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I know plenty of 'em.

You sound like the NYC reporter in 1972 who didn't know anyone who voted for Nixon.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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Especially when there are too many people that were easy pickings. Don are you one of the easy pickings? Real men don't live off the government teet.

Takers are attaching themselves permanently to the government tit, and they feel no guilt or shame as they scream for more. Obama knows them and and takes advantage of every opportunity to stoke the fires.

In due course, simple mathematics will dictate that we can't afford to keep able bodied men and women on the dole. There will be hell to pay.
You are the one that expects the government to improve peoples lives.

You blame the government for peoples failures. Stop looking for a handout and look in the mirror.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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You are the one that expects the government to improve peoples lives.

You blame the government for peoples failures. Stop looking for a handout and look in the mirror.
Sorry nope, but if government would leave people alone and stop taxing us to death then it would be a positive side effect. You and your ilk expect the government to take care of your every need. That is a big difference between people like you and me.

Real men don't live off the government teet. Real men take care of their offspring.

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Old 05-24-2013, 04:50 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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1) It doesn't matter who appointed this person, it was under the Obama administration that these abuses happened. Just because they were appointed by Bush doesn't excuse Obama in this matter, or should we go after Bush for this? Bush hasn't been POTUS for 6 years, leave it to you guys to blame someone else, how Obama like you are.

2) Lie like they didn't know what was happening and then blame it on a video. Pull your head out of the sand and take a look around you.

3) Yes, go after the person who leaked the info, not the person who reports it.
1. It does not excuse wrong doing, but the argument you and others are trying to make is that it was political which the IG report already says it was not. You keep saying Obama as if he was the one ordering this to happen but he wasnt. This was an internal agency situation, You should take your own advice and place blame in the right place. Bush also hasnt been out of office 6 years.

2.They never said they didnt know what was going on, And there were 22 other embassies in the middle east with protest going on around them. that is why the video was addressed,Hell, we had a congressman enter into evidence that a Libyan official warned of the Protest before the attack, the short term memory on this site is astonishing.

3. You need to know who that person is before you can go after them, and everything the DOJ did was legal.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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1. It does not excuse wrong doing, but the argument you and others are trying to make is that it was political which the IG report already says it was not. You keep saying Obama as if he was the one ordering this to happen but he wasnt. This was an internal agency situation, You should take your own advice and place blame in the right place. Bush also hasnt been out of office 6 years.

2.They never said they didnt know what was going on, And there were 22 other embassies in the middle east with protest going on around them. that is why the video was addressed,Hell, we had a congressman enter into evidence that a Libyan official warned of the Protest before the attack, the short term memory on this site is astonishing.

3. You need to know who that person is before you can go after them, and everything the DOJ did was legal.
First of all they don't know how far up the chain of command this IRS problem goes, so to excuse Obama is a little premature. They do know is goes as far as Obama's chief of staff and this does make one wonder if it didn't go higher. Excuse me, Bush has been out of office for a little over 4 years, so it is still okay to blame him for Obama's problems. I bet Nixon wished he'd been Obama, then he could have claimed ignorance about what his administration was doing, I guess the ole saying "Ignorance is bliss" really does apply in this aspect.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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Many of the organizations never got off the ground and running BECAUSE of the IRS refusing to approve their tax exempt status. Without the status, no fundraising, without fundraising, no issue advertising and grass roots mobilization.
Really...

Of the top 45 independent organizations who financed the 20012 election 35 supported Romney.

Independent Spending Totals - Campaign Finance - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com

Romney outspent Obama, $992 million to $985 million.

The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com

Sheldon and Miriam Adelson donated more to the Romney campaign than the top five individuals for Obama combined

Ibid.

With that said, Romney outspent Obama on advertising $479 million to $396 million.

Romney Outspent Obama, But Couldn't Out-Advertise Him | Campaign Trail - Advertising Age

Very clearly Romney's problem wasn't money, Romney's problem was the he was,

a. Mit Romney
b. he was a Republican.

Deal with it.
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