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Old 05-25-2013, 08:02 AM
 
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To anyone with a functioning brain, it's pretty clear what Obama did to get elected. Unfortunately, the functioning brain criterion excludes his swooners from seeing what's right in front of their faces, plain as day.
Yes, it's clear he ran a better campaign than Mr. 47% and Lyin' Ryan.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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To align the IRS scandal, bad as it is, with voter suppression is an unsubstantiated act of fantasy, and I suspect that you're smart enough to know that. Romney did not lose for a lack of resources, and you can still vote even if you get audited.

So unless you can support your claims with specifics - which you can't - then of course the rational conclusion is that Obama won his second term fair and square.
So if it had no impact, then why use the IRS to begin with?
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:12 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Yes, it's clear he ran a better campaign than Mr. 47% and Lyin' Ryan.
In the first debate Obama joked that they made him study and Obama did miserably. Obama knew his handlers were making sure that he would win.

Main stream media ... lap dog media,
Lying about safety... Al-Quaeda is on the run
now possibly using the arm of the government, the IRS to silence his opponents
accusing his opponent of falsehoods (accused of being the cause of a woman's death)
Reid lying about Romney tax records
Reid saying he knows Romney makes more than he claims
Playing into peoples jealousy and demonizing hard working Americans
using the race card to mobilize people
Oh and it's too hard for black people to get a voter ID.

The list goes on
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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There is growing concern that the Obama administration illegally used the IRS as an arm of their re-election campaign. When people claim that Obama won because the economy was improving, or because Americans generally think he is doing a good job, it is not true. He won through dishonest methods and rhetoric.

The deliberate targeting by the IRS of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, and leaks of information about conservative groups. The IRS stall tactics and inappropriate delving into religious and political beliefs worked to silence and defund the opposition.

Al-Quaeda is on the run and Osama Bin Laden is dead. Benghazi was very much in the news prior to the election. The concealment went to the culpability of the Obama administration in failing to heed warnings about security, the nature of the pre-planned al-Qaeda attack, the scrubbing of the talking points, the failure to go to the aid of Americans in trouble, and the claim that the attack was a result of a YouTube video. Obama's re-election was more important than American lives.

Democrats treatment of blacks remains pitiful... A rise of black unemployment, an increase in poverty among blacks and a fall in income. Obama also stroked his mobs to blame conservatives, the wealthy and white as the cause.

If Republicans campaign among white voters, Democrats will caricature them as racists. If Republicans campaign among black voters Democrats immediately accused them of pandering and double down and stoke the race card even harder.
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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There is growing concern that the Obama administration illegally used the IRS as an arm of their re-election campaign. When people claim that Obama won because the economy was improving, or because Americans generally think he is doing a good job, it is not true. He won through dishonest methods and rhetoric.

The deliberate targeting by the IRS of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, and leaks of information about conservative groups. The IRS stall tactics and inappropriate delving into religious and political beliefs worked to silence and defund the opposition.

Al-Quaeda is on the run and Osama Bin Laden is dead. Benghazi was very much in the news prior to the election. The concealment went to the culpability of the Obama administration in failing to heed warnings about security, the nature of the pre-planned al-Qaeda attack, the scrubbing of the talking points, the failure to go to the aid of Americans in trouble, and the claim that the attack was a result of a YouTube video. Obama's re-election was more important than American lives.

Democrats treatment of blacks remains pitiful... A rise of black unemployment, an increase in poverty among blacks and a fall in income. Obama also stroked his mobs to blame conservatives, the wealthy and white as the cause.

If Republicans campaign among white voters, Democrats will caricature them as racists. If Republicans campaign among black voters Democrats immediately accused them of pandering and double down and stoke the race card even harder.
Wow, you guys are really reaching now. Using political rhetoric is now "stealing an election?" This is beyond the point of desperation for an argument. It's more like insanity.
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Good point. They should not have been applying for 501c (4) status anyway IF they intended to elect a particular candidate.

Tell us again how this impacted the vote?
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Looking again at the title of your thread - tell me how this led to voter suppression. Isn't that what this thread was all about?
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Please reference the thread title. OP claims that IF the IRS refused tax exempt status to Romney's political organizations (which they should have); this was voter suppression.

I'm not seeing it. IRS issues are discussed in detail in other threads. Particularly, how did this impact people voting for Romney? That clearly political groups were not granted tax exempt status.
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There is growing concern that the Obama administration illegally used the IRS as an arm of their re-election campaign. When people claim that Obama won because the economy was improving, or because Americans generally think he is doing a good job, it is not true. He won through dishonest methods and rhetoric.

The deliberate targeting by the IRS of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, and leaks of information about conservative groups. The IRS stall tactics and inappropriate delving into religious and political beliefs worked to silence and defund the opposition.

Al-Quaeda is on the run and Osama Bin Laden is dead. Benghazi was very much in the news prior to the election. The concealment went to the culpability of the Obama administration in failing to heed warnings about security, the nature of the pre-planned al-Qaeda attack, the scrubbing of the talking points, the failure to go to the aid of Americans in trouble, and the claim that the attack was a result of a YouTube video. Obama's re-election was more important than American lives.

Democrats treatment of blacks remains pitiful... A rise of black unemployment, an increase in poverty among blacks and a fall in income. Obama also stroked his mobs to blame conservatives, the wealthy and white as the cause.

If Republicans campaign among white voters, Democrats will caricature them as racists. If Republicans campaign among black voters Democrats immediately accused them of pandering and double down and stoke the race card even harder.
I have yet to see any coherent answer about how the IRS 'targeting' conservative groups that apparently intended to push Romney as their candidate thereby clearly not eligible for tax exempt status . . . corresponds to Obama winning reelection.

Specifically, how does any alleged IRS profiling of groups that should not have tax exempt status to begin with correlate to how many people came out and voted for flip-flop Romney.

Specifically.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That's what I thought.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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We now know what the Obama administration's playbook to win a second term was. Frustrate the tea party movement by denying indefinitely their 501(c)(4) status, targeting those groups and their members for audits and other government red tape, and otherwise suppressing the vote.

The corrupt imposter posing in the White House today received 10 million fewer votes than he did in 2008. If Romney had received an additional 4 million votes, he would have won.

We will never know how many Romney voters never made it to the polls because of the Obama regime's criminal campaign to target conservative grass roots organizations.
Think of all the fundraising that was lost, all the volunteer time that was lost, and all the votes that were lost because of Obama's illegal and unethical methods of intimidation and voter suppression.


It cannot be said that Obama legitimately won his second term.
Obama ran an excellent campaign to get out the vote. Romney admitted his campaign did not. From what I heard on conservative talk radio many conservatives sat this one out because Romney wasn't conservative enough. Don't blame Obama blame Romney for being a lousy candidate
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Obama's Second Term Is the Result of Intimidation and Voter Suppression

Yep... Looks like the IRS was trying to verify the ID's of those Tea Party voters. The very intimidation and suppression the Democrats have been opposing in Voter ID laws.
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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Obama's Second Term Is the Result of Intimidation and Voter Suppression

Yep... Looks like the IRS was trying to verify the ID's of those Tea Party voters. The very intimidation and suppression the Democrats have been opposing in Voter ID laws.
Yep, good point.
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