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You're right, it's not a federal crime to enter the country illegally THE FIRST TIME. Many that have been deported (quite often more than once) return and that is when it becomes a federal crime. Then there are the crimes they commit while they are here illegally, many times those crimes are federal. And although it's not a violation of federal CRIMINAL law (to enter illegally the first time), isn't it a violation of federal IMMIGRATION law?
The upshot is once you remove the knee jerk emotional reactions (they want a better life, etc) and get to the core, it's still illegal. They shouldn't be here. Stop all the legal smoke and mirrors and at the end of the day, it's still illegal.
You have to profile. In Toronto 99% of gun crimes take place in our small black ghettos. What is a cop to do? NOT check out black youth in neighborhoods where violent crime is rampant? It actually saves lives of those being profiled to be profiled.
Arpaio has always bragged that he has never been convicted of the racist behavior he is accused of by his detractors. Well, that ended today with a verdict finding he and his department guilty of racial profiling of Hispanics.
I am sure!!! I mean, it is not his fault that the majority of illegals happen to be Hispanic, therefore he would be found guilty, even if he isn't. It means nothing, especially since it is the Obama administration that went after him, who happens to love illegals.
And how many mass murderers are there compared to the number of illegal aliens here?
How many white males are knowingly providing a home and job assistance to serial killers?
How many white males are marching to get a free pass for serial killers?
Cops profile everyday. What car do they look for speeding violations? That red Corvette or thee dark green 30 year old station wagon?
Let's face the facts millions of Swedes are not crossing the southern border illegally.
I guess it depends on your view whether it actually is racial profiling or not. Arizona has a large hispanic population and since the majority of illegal aliens are hispanic it stands to reason they would be looked at more than others. It's simple logic.
I guess it depends on your view whether it actually is racial profiling or not. Arizona has a large hispanic population and since the majority of illegal aliens are hispanic it stands to reason they would be looked at more than others. It's simple logic.
As is set forth below, in light of ICE’s cancellation of the MCSO’s 287(g)
authority, the MCSO has no authority to detain people based only on reasonable
suspicion, or probable cause, without more, that such persons are in this country without
authorization. The MCSO lost authority to enforce the civil administrative aspects of
federal immigration law upon revocation of its 287(g) authority. And, in the absence of
additional facts that would provide reasonable suspicion that a person committed a
federal criminal offense either in entering or staying in this country, it is not a violation of
federal criminal law to be in this country without authorization in and of itself.
Yes they were, the 4th. and 14th. amendment, that is why the judge instructed MCSO to change their tactics.
I suggest you read the court documents. There was no violation of anything. There was no criminal act of anything. Arpaio was not convicted of anything. Therefore there are/were no 4th or 14th protection violations. The MCSO was under 287(g) during the time of the complaints. It was still ICE that determined if these persons would be held for deportation or not.
You might try actually reading your link, since I provided it previously. Feel free to point out the text where any protections were violated.
It is not a federal crime to be in the country if you overstay your visa, however it is a federal crime to be found in the country if you are an EWI. This judge doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to Federal Immigration Law, he is out of his area of expertise. An EWI's first offense is a Federal Misdemeanor, Class 4; a second offense is a Federal Felony, Class 6. Being found within the country as an EWI, it is up to the IG to prosecute or not.
If you follow your own quote of the paragraph you posted you should realize the judge is talking about the LEAR policy being a violation of the 4th (page 4, line 15). So, as I stated, this case was nothing more than to get the policies used by MCSO changed.
The easiest way to explain this court case is to equal it to SB1070 and the court and the outcome from that.
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the "M" word.
The MCSO was under 287(g) during the time of the complaints. It was still ICE that determined if these persons would be held for deportation or not.
