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It is not really surprising that only anti-gun control groups collect information on cases where the victim's gun is used to defend life and property. With our ultra-liberal media, I would anticipate that those cases are reported on the local level with NO emphasis on the gun owner's prevention of crime, and they certainly won't be pop up in the first 10 pages in an internet search using the search words that a 2nd Amendment advocate would use.
I decided to work backwards and to find how stories of victims using a gun to prevent a crime are initially reported. Randomly looking at one site called Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters, I checked one story called "Armed Homeowners Help Nab Serial Armed Robber." The story is taken from a mainstream daily newspaper covering east central Florida called Florida Today, and indeed describes exactly what the title says. But what was the title of the actual news article that ran? It was: "Man held in series of Central Brevard robberies."
Most people only read newspaper headlines. The vast majority of that newspaper's readers never found out that an armed homeowner had held this violent career criminal at gunpoint until police could arrive.
And let's not forget that there is no police report and no newspaper article when a victim having a gun prevents any crime from happening. I personally know of at least 1 crime that was prevented by my having a handgun (with a concealed weapons permit), when my house was broken into by a juvenile delinquent who lived down the street. He boasted of his take to the neighborhood kids, who told us. When my spouse told them to spread the word that we both carried handguns and sometimes got home from work early, and would not hesitate to shoot ANYONE we found breaking into our house, we were never victimized again--although many other houses were, and most of them were broken into more than once.
dot-dot-dot can be used systematically to enact linguistic politeness, for instance indicating topic change or hesitation
At any rate, an alleged misuse of ellipses is hardly the elementary sort of mistake I had just pointed out
Funny how you misspelled "ellipses" but used the wiki definition..
Of course, unless you are talking about math?
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I think guns are just fine, but people should demonstrate higher intelligence and/or maturity than I've seen thus far on this thread, before being permitted to carry one.
And you are basing your opinion on this thread alone....typical leftist....
Funny how you misspelled "ellipses" but used the wiki definition..
Of course, unless you are talking about math?
I didn't misspell a thing. "Ellipses" is the plural form of the word "ellipsis", whether you are talking about math or grammar. Stop digging already. Also, a proper ellipsis contains three periods.
I think guns are just fine, but people should demonstrate higher intelligence and/or maturity than I've seen thus far on this thread, before being permitted to carry one.
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And you are basing your opinion on this thread alone....typical leftist....
What opinion are you referring to? All I said about guns in general was, "I think guns are just fine". How am I a "leftist" for saying that?
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it is a universal truth, proven by research that people who fear simple implements are also grammar nazis. they can also be found dialing 911 when they only have seconds. what would you call someone such as this?
I have no problem with guns, just with people who can't agree to some very commonsense guidelines concerning who should be able to own them. Yes, I think IQ and maturity level are important. For example, if someone writes a paragraph in political discussion/debate in which they can't capitalize or spell words as well as a third grader, they should put off gun ownership for a bit.
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here we have the archetypal and tragically misguided I know better person. there is no such thing as a common sense guideline on any issue. common sense is actually lacking in most humanity. exhibit a are those such as......well......people who advocate common sense guidelines. if common sense ran someone such as one like you, over it wouldn't leave a mark.
the country is in a shambles today because of the results of the unintended consequences of "common sense" legislation which have completely eroded our civil rights. were a founder of the republic to find himself living in your current "common sense" reality that person would surely immediately agitate for revolution.
the sad reality is you lack any sense at all. sensibility is anything but common. thanks for helping in animating my point.
In all honesty, I do not understand why people get so upset over bad grammar on message boards? It is an informal exchange of ideas. Most times that I post on here, its during a quick time I ahve some free time via my cellphone.
As for this post, I do not know NRA numbers, whatever numbers of these cases, I have seen posts on this board, just pointing out the "bads" of firearms, acting like there are never any goods. Recently I noticed some interesting stories so I thought I would share.
As for the topic of not budging on guns. I am perfectly accepting of full overhaul of gun control laws. I am against dumbass politicians making half cocked laws without reviewing them or thinking logically just so they can boost their political name and ride the wave of tragedy behind the event. Also gun laws are never repealed, just more and more restrictions. I'd be in for a compromise, but some of the dumbass laws created recently, want nothing to do with any of it until they come out with at least a plan.
here we have the archetypal and tragically misguided I know better person. there is no such thing as a common sense guideline on any issue. common sense is actually lacking in most humanity. exhibit a are those such as......well......people who advocate common sense guidelines. if common sense ran someone such as one like you, over it wouldn't leave a mark.
the country is in a shambles today because of the results of the unintended consequences of "common sense" legislation which have completely eroded our civil rights. were a founder of the republic to find himself living in your current "common sense" reality that person would surely immediately agitate for revolution.
the sad reality is you lack any sense at all. sensibility is anything but common. thanks for helping in animating my point.
Did you have a point? Did you even address the general notion of IQ and maturity level being important when it comes to allowing someone to own a firearm? No, you didn't. You just rambled a while about how "there is no such thing as a common sense guideline" (a sad commentary for this nation in its own right). I believe "You should have at least the IQ and maturity level of a third grader before owning a weapon" is commonsense; but there seems to be resistence to even this idea.
No wonder more serious gun control legislation has so much trouble. It seems that its opposition believes the requirements for gun ownership should be "At least 6 fingers all total?... Yep, here's your weapon!"
We seem to have more "armed" bad guys than other countries.Ever notice that?
That's what the NRA gun lobby and their followers want, though. They love the idea of running gun battles in the streets and wild west type vigilantism. The more bad guys with guns to fight, the better. More opportunities for violence and death = even more gun sales and profit.
That's what the NRA gun lobby and their followers want, though. They love the idea of running gun battles in the streets and wild west type vigilantism. The more bad guys with guns to fight, the better. More opportunities for violence and death = even more gun sales and profit.
It that is true, than the NRA is doing something wrong, because gun violence has dropped dramatically in the last 20 years.
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