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Thanks, that's the first place I've seen the refusal number listed.
Regardless, my point still stands. The money saved was outweighed by the money spent by a wide margin. That's also ignoring other, less measurable impacts.
The money saved was outweighed by the money spent by a wide margin.
Florida saved $30 for every dollar reimbursed for the tests and that is only over a 4 1/2 period when you include those that refused the test. Look at the chart, it lays it out for you. It's almost 2 million they saved.
Which is not the cost of the program. Were you confused on that point or something?
Beyond the testing what other other costs were there? Certainly administrative costs in the government didn't add up to $2 million dollars in 4 months to test a few thousand people.
Reference to what you are speaking about in these mysterious costs?
What they are doing is legal and they are paying for their booze with THEIR money. Which THEY earned and are being productive members of society. Not leeches.
Oh really. So it's okay by you that people come into work hungover on the taxpayers dime, but geez lets by all means spend a whole bunch of money to make sure someone on unemployment (to be on unemployment means you've been laid off, not fired) doesn't smoke a little pot?
Beyond the testing what other other costs were there? Certainly administrative costs in the government didn't add up to $2 million dollars in 4 months to test a few thousand people.
Reference to what you are speaking about in these mysterious costs?
Four months was only the length of time that the testing was permitted before the 11th Circuit issued an injunction stopping it. Administrative costs would have been building leading well up to that point and certainly would have exceeded $2 million. Oh, do I get to throw in the legal costs of defending this law in court as well?
The bottom line is that Florida spent far more reimbursing people for testing costs than it saved by actively eliminating others. You and some others point to the money saved by those who did not test but there are several problems there that anyone with some education in statistics could point out. First, there is no historical data to show whether there was any change in this trend previous to the implementation of the drug testing. I kinda doubt it, as reports said there was no fluctuation in the amount of applications after the law went into effect. You are also making the assumption that the people who did not test did so because they would fail, but ignores the equally plausible scenarios where they could not afford the testing fee, saw a change in life situation, moved...etc.
I'm all for it. I say randomly drug test everyone. I have no problems with being drug tested anytime, any place, and any where. How about you?
Does that include everyone's blood alcohol level? How many people that work for the taxpayer do you think go into work still drunk from the night before?
Thanks, that's the first place I've seen the refusal number listed.
Regardless, my point still stands. The money saved was outweighed by the money spent by a wide margin. That's also ignoring other, less measurable impacts.
Some lab made a good deal of money from all that testing. Also those people don't vanish. If they cannot feed and clothe themselves they really are going to have a near impossible time "contributing" to society, as well.
I would say better use of time is CAFR discussion of all the wealth not not being utilized by the very taxpayers that funded it. FL state alone has quite the stash. Last I looked so did TX. Recent CAFR numbers of FL state were close to 70bil net surplus, that's with all the special accounting they can all get away with.
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