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Old 05-27-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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30 years ago, the U.S. national debt was about one trillion dollars. Today, it is almost 17 trillion dollars.

40 years ago, the total amount of debt in the United States was about 2 trillion dollars. Today, it is more than 56 trillion dollars.

At the same time that we have been running up all of this debt, our economic infrastructure and our ability to produce wealth has been absolutely gutted.

Since 2001, the United States has lost more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities and millions of good jobs have been shipped overseas.

Our share of global GDP declined from 31.8 percent in 2001 to 21.6 percent in 2011.

The percentage of Americans that are self-employed is at a record low, and the percentage of Americans that are dependent on the government is at a record high.

The U.S. economy is a complete and total mess, and it is time that we faced the truth.

40 Statistics About The Fall Of The U.S. Economy That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe - BlackListedNews.com
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:02 PM
 
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Another problem -- 30 years ago, a higher portion of the population paid taxes, and a higher portion of the population worked for a living.

Today in many parts of the country, more babies are born to welfare households -- births paid by Medicaid, then
are born to working taxpaying parents.

More and more people are finding it easy to come up with a diagnosis of some kind that will get them disability checks or SSi if they never feel like working. The number of people living off disability checks with all the other handouts that come with is it skyrocketing.

It's not looking good.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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Another problem -- 30 years ago, a higher portion of the population paid taxes, and a higher portion of the population worked for a living.

Today in many parts of the country, more babies are born to welfare households -- births paid by Medicaid, then
are born to working taxpaying parents.


More and more people are finding it easy to come up with a diagnosis of some kind that will get them disability checks or SSi if they never feel like working. The number of people living off disability checks with all the other handouts that come with is it skyrocketing.

It's not looking good.
Yes! Let's blame the "poor" for our "debt'! Do you know what the average "welfare" check is? Not much! but hey that is your "scapegoat"!
Why don't you try the billions we spend on Wars & Defense instead?
Why don't you ask why we send Israel $3 billion dollars a year?

The GOP House is even cutting the SNAP program as we speak that feeds thousands of school children with free meals at schools!

Oh by the way you can thank Dubya for a lot of the debt too by launching TWO Wars in the middle of a recession while giving tax cuts to the wealthiest !
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: The Ranch
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Why don't you ask why we send Israel $3 billion dollars a year?
Its a wash. It ALL comes back to the US as purchases. Not one cent of it is spent in any other country. Why don't you ask, MB, what USAID spends $47.8 Billion on and where it goes and where it gets spent?

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/texttrans/2013/04/20130410145564.html#axzz2UWL2oCMp
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Yes! Let's blame the "poor" for our "debt'! Do you know what the average "welfare" check is? Not much! but hey that is your "scapegoat"!
Why don't you try the billions we spend on Wars & Defense instead?
Why don't you ask why we send Israel $3 billion dollars a year?

The GOP House is even cutting the SNAP program as we speak that feeds thousands of school children with free meals at schools!

Oh by the way you can thank Dubya for a lot of the debt too by launching TWO Wars in the middle of a recession while giving tax cuts to the wealthiest !
$62,000 is the average annual cost to maintain a welfare household. It's not just the free cash that's given them, it's the free housing, all utilities paid, the free health care provided, the food stamps, free meals at schools. In many parts of the country, the welfare households are beginning to outnumber the taxpaying households. The welfare recipients are having far more babies than working taxpayers.

So yes I do blame them, they aren't pulling their weight, they want this huge gigantic government, but they aren't having to pay anything for it.

I'd rather question why we give Egypt and Syria the money that we do. Israel isn't a hell-hole.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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Looking at the debt breakdown seems relevant.
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post29726202
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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Yes! Let's blame the "poor" for our "debt'! Do you know what the average "welfare" check is? Not much! but hey that is your "scapegoat"!
Why don't you try the billions we spend on Wars & Defense instead?
Why don't you ask why we send Israel $3 billion dollars a year?

The GOP House is even cutting the SNAP program as we speak that feeds thousands of school children with free meals at schools!

Oh by the way you can thank Dubya for a lot of the debt too by launching TWO Wars in the middle of a recession while giving tax cuts to the wealthiest !
I thought this article very interesting. Looking at 2010 numbers.
How much do we REALLY spend on Welfare? - Our Dime
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If you only want to go with on-budget expenditures it’s 6.4%, still a far cry from the 12% that most internet graphs will show you.

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Old 05-27-2013, 07:00 PM
 
Location: California
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Yup. And 30 years ago I was 24.
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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GOP Presidents Have Been the Worst Contributors to the Federal Debt - Atlantic Mobile

Naturally, the right-wingers blame the poor. They have this all figured out.
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