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Old 06-01-2013, 07:45 PM
 
Location: NJ
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If Obama could take credit for killing osama, then by rights, must take responsibility for the IRS turned Democratic assault weapon.

Amazing that anyone would even ask if Obama bears blame for his outlaw agencies that act out Chicago style politics at a banana republic dictator level !!!!!!

Obama's message is clear....if you oppose his policies you will be punished by the feds..quite a departure from American standards and well into a crimninal act.

If the same starndard was used to judge Obama's responsibility in the IRS, Benghazi and AP scandals as was used to award him a nobel peace prize, he'd be behind bars.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Still trying to excuse the Administration by pointing fingers elsewhere I see.
Your point is moot, what anyone else did regardless of it was today or last century does not excuse another.
If you would first read, second understand, and third comphrend you would understand that I was not defending any of his actions, but merely pointing out that an event that happened 10 years ago will have affects that will be felt for decades by some people.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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But the IRS does not fall under the AG. Who is to say that because of the ruling regarding contributions to political groups that they (factions inside of the IRS) might be a little over zealous?



Uhh, one sided overzealous.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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He was elected to RUN the government--not to go on vacation, go to golfing, not to have expensive campaign fund-raising dinners.

If he couldn't do the job, he should have resigned immediately.




It's not too late now that it's obvious.
Don't rhink it's "can't" though, more apparently won't.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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If something horribly wrong happens in any given company, the CEO is blamed. It doesn't matter what the CEO knew, he is ultimately held accountable for how the company is being run. He should have known what was going on and a CEO's ignorance doesn't save him from getting fired. In fact, if the CEO is utterly clueless about a massive scandal in the company he's supposed to be running, the board will fire him even faster. Who wants a CEO that doesn't have a clue what is going on?

Obama is the CEO here. Either he knew or he should have known. Ignorance is no excuse.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Uhh, one sided overzealous.

I thought that some employees may have taken it upon themselves and supervisors either were not aware or turned their heads on the fact that they personally did not like the Teaparty.

The way that I look at it, so many conservatives have tried to attack him on stupid stuff that he was not responsible for so when something they could nail him on no one really takes them seriously. Pretty much like them calling "wolf" one time too many.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I thought that some employees may have taken it upon themselves and supervisors either were not aware or turned their heads on the fact that they personally did not like the Teaparty.

The way that I look at it, so many conservatives have tried to attack him on stupid stuff that he was not responsible for so when something they could nail him on no one really takes them seriously. Pretty much like them calling "wolf" one time too many.
You're speaking of those on the left, of course.

Finally, though, some in the liberal media (more than just a few) are beginning to take it seriously.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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I think that is what really irks the hell outta me is that the same things that has been going on for years are blown out of portion since obama has been president. Nothing changes in the political ivory tower but the faces


So you're OK with what the IRS did then to certain groups in particular while favoring others.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:20 PM
 
Location: California
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I think that is what really irks the hell outta me is that the same things that has been going on for years are blown out of portion since obama has been
president. Nothing changes in the political ivory tower but the faces
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So you're OK with what the IRS did then to certain groups in particular while favoring others.
I don't see that in what you quoted. I agree everything has been exaggerated with Obama. It sort of started with Bush but then went crazy. If he is CEO and the buck stops with him there is NOTHING we can't blame on him. NOTHING. Which sort of takes the wind out of the sails of anything he is directly responsible for doesn't it? It might have started out fun, this "blame the POTUS for everything" ...thing. But like everything we do, we overdo until it's meaningless.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:29 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I think at the very least he has done a lot of mismanaging and has been incredibly neglectful. All that time he spent at parties, on vacations, golfing trips and non-stop campaigning could have been spent on doing his job.

However, he has managed to keep a distance from any "mess" that might rise to the surface, whether he knew about it or not.
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