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Old 06-03-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Monday said he had seen “no evidence” that the White House ordered the Internal Revenue Service to target conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

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Can we move on now?
Nope, because whoever is responsible has to be uncovered and held accountable.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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How can you condemn one and not the other especially if they are doing the same thing? Are you saying that the republicans should not be called out and the democratis should or is it something else why there is such a difference between the two

It is so funny that no matter what happens the left compares it to the previous administration, the very presidency they hate but somehow they don't mind the same actions from the Obama administration.

Ok, we condemn the past administration. We are now condemning the current administration who acted just like the previous administration. Same thing.. feel better (rolling my eyes too)
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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It is so funny that no matter what happens the left compares it to the previous administration, the very presidency they hate but somehow they don't mind the same actions from the Obama administration.

Ok, we condemn the past administration. We are now condemning the current administration who acted just like the previous administration. Same thing.. feel better (rolling my eyes too)
Actually I do. I'm just tired of all of the hypocrisy the right has against the very same thing that went on when they were in charge. Many of them act like this was the first administration on record
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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One can condemn the other but this is not about the other. This is about this administration. Something you seem very reluctant to condemn.

What went on here was about as wrong as one can get. What went on here is against everything this country is about. It has nothing to do with any other administration.

That is other thing that needs to be pointed out, some of you see what you want to see and read what you want to read, is there any part of my conversation that condemned one but not the other? If so please point this out. Actually there are some things that overlapped into this administration and proably into the next one depending on the compentency of the Congrees and the Senate.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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[quote=southward bound;29859785]What does that have to do with anything? Something that is wrong is always wrong no matter who does it.


You for one are the perfect example of what I just previously posted.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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Nope, because whoever is responsible has to be uncovered and held accountable.
Must I remind you of the title of the thread, "Why are people blaming Obama for the IRS scandal?"
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:39 AM
 
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That is other thing that needs to be pointed out, some of you see what you want to see and read what you want to read, is there any part of my conversation that condemned one but not the other? If so please point this out. Actually there are some things that overlapped into this administration and proably into the next one depending on the compentency of the Congrees and the Senate.
I have yet to see you condemn the actions and demand we find who was responsible and hold them accountable.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:40 AM
 
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Must I remind you of the title of the thread, "Why are people blaming Obama for the IRS scandal?"
If someone in Obama's administration was behind this even if Obama did not pull the trigger, it's his administration and he is responsible.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Monday said he had seen “no evidence” that the White House ordered the Internal Revenue Service to target conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

Read more: Graham:
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

Can we move on now?
Sen Graham?

It's happened before...

Misusing the IRS to intimidate and harass anyone who disagreed, Effective tool during the Hillary and Bill Clinton White House years
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55207
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/12/wh...-clintons-irs/
…people knew at the time Bill Clinton had the IRS attacking his opponents…Now we learn that this isn’t IRS boss Steven T. Miller’s first rodeo. In addition to doing Obama’s bidding, attacking Conservatives, Miller played a similar role during the Clinton years, attacking anti-Clinton groups.
Steven T. Miller, the acting IRS commissioner who managed the division that has admitted targeting anti-Obama Tea Party groups, was one of several agents who investigated anti-Clinton organizations including Judicial Watch during that Democrat’s administration, according to court documents and interviews. http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wor...-in-the-1990s/

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Old 06-06-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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Power, especially concentrated power, almost gets abused. If our goal is to avoid or minimize the abuse of power, our challenge is to minimize the concentration of power. When you disperse power, you defang it. When you divide power into millions of pieces you remove most of its ability to do major and lasting damage. The greater the concentration of power, the greater the abuse.

We have basically only two available choices for organizing a society and economy -- socialism or the market. The difference between those two systems is primarily a matter of where power and control will be vested. Will control be centralized or decentralized?

Obama is power hungry, what do you think?
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