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View Poll Results: Are marijuana users criminals in your opinion?
Yes 61 26.07%
No 166 70.94%
Undecided 7 2.99%
Voters: 234. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-29-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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Well, they didn't find spice, they found POT.
Your not understanding spice & pot both will show signs of THC......they have to know it's what he smoked. Where's the proof it was only pot.......


I knew a girl who liked to put PCP in MJ and not tell anyone at after hour parties. She was messed up she figured if guys were stupid enough to smoke without asking it wasn't her problem. People who go to parties with many people attending may never know what they've taken or smoked.

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Old 05-29-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Well, they didn't find spice, they found POT.


How are you going to smoke something you didn't buy or roll yourself is beyond me. Same thing can happen with any drug. Are you sure those are ecstasy pills or are you just taking someone's word for it? How pure is that cocaine...what is it cut with? Is that punch spiked with grain alcohol instead of rum? Etc. Drugs cost money why a drug dealer add to the drug when it will cut into the profit?
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Your not understanding spice & pot both will show signs of THC......they have to know it's what he smoked. Where's the proof it was only pot.......
Either it is spice, or pot, or PCP. The toxicologists are capable of telling the differene. Spice mimics THC, but it is not THC, and will not cause a positive result for a cannabis test. Spice can be detected by looking for JWH-018, CP 47,497 and the C6, C8 and C9 and such.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Western Oregon
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From USA Today:


An expert on toxicology testing said marijuana alone wasn't likely to cause behavior as strange as Eugene's.
"The problem today is that there is an almost an infinite number of chemical substances out there that can trigger unusual behavior," said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, Professor and Director of Toxicology at the University of Florida.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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An expert on toxicology testing said marijuana alone wasn't likely to cause behavior as strange as Eugene's.
"The problem today is that there is an almost an infinite number of chemical substances out there that can trigger unusual behavior," said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, Professor and Director of Toxicology at the University of Florida.
Was he involved in the case? NO

He did not analyze the data, so this is nothing but a personal opinion.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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I don't see any upside to smoking dope but a lot of people use it so society will have to deal with the crime/punishment problems. It's expensive to put a person into jail and I would rather see a "ticket" issued for small time users.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Western Oregon
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Was he involved in the case? NO

He did not analyze the data, so this is nothing but a personal opinion.
It's a personal opinion that there are almost an infinite number of chemical substances that can trigger unusual behavior? Come on, you lack any logic.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Ah, the good old "you made a typo" line. It is such a persuasive argument Unfortunately it is the best many can come up with
There were actually three or four of them, so you must have some sticky fingers - especially since you misspelled "psychosis" at LEAST three times. I don't know about you, but I've never made the same exact "typo" that many times in a row.

Anyway, I figured if you're going to use pointless arguments like "some crazy homeless guy chewed off another homeless guy's face," the only thing left was to nitpick your spelling.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:35 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Was he involved in the case? NO

He did not analyze the data, so this is nothing but a personal opinion.
Were YOU involved in the case?? NO.

So all your posting is personal opinion too, along with some very illogical "reasoning" based on a few ancient and poorly-researched studies (and the face chewing guy, lol).
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Either it is spice, or pot, or PCP. The toxicologists are capable of telling the differene. Spice mimics THC, but it is not THC, and will not cause a positive result for a cannabis test. Spice can be detected by looking for JWH-018, CP 47,497 and the C6, C8 and C9 and such.
Why are you saying it was pot when this report says they expect bath salts........would you like to give a link that shows it was pot and just pot?
Face-Eating Attack Possibly Linked to Bath Salts, Miami Police Say - ABC News

Police have not officially connected Eugene's behavior to "bath salts," but experts say he was exhibiting the classic signs of someone high on the drug.

Face-eating man incident intensifies scrutiny over 'bath salts' drug | Society | guardian.co.uk

The drugs were already illegal in Florida, where Eugene may have taken them before his breakdown
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