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Old 05-30-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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The Book, does not twist the teaching of Christ...people do.
Fair enough. The interpretation of the book and the church twist the teachings of Christ. It's delta between Christ and the church is amazing.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What book does the President put his left hand on when he takes the oath of office. Who is he "swearing to"?
Would it have been a Mormon Bible if Romney were elected? And if this nation grows up to actually elect an openly atheist or Muslim or a Hindu... would it still be a Bible to secure such oath? Why?
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Nationalization of "God" is not an example of "free exercise". Free exercise is for individuals, whether they worship a God, or Goddess, or no God/Goddess at all. First Amendment, the idea of separation of religion and government, is to protect every individual's right, not to have everyone subscribe to a collective idea.
I may be wrong here, so I'm just checking....doesn't it say, "A" religion. As in one. As in one. Not as in religion a whole or many.

When the chains begin to hurt...where are you going to go to be free again?
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Fair enough. The interpretation of the book and the church twist the teachings of Christ. It's delta between Christ and the church is amazing.
Something else, which I'm finding is just of my own opinion but, it was politics that hung Christ.

Think about the choices that were made, how it was He landed up on the cross;why and whose face was saved by the people. The people made their choice and they will choose the same path again...and there is no Moses (I know old testament, but it still works) to set his people free, and if they are to be set free today....where are they going to go, what land is there to go to...?

Amendments to our Constitution all reflect choices that are being taken away, however, it is but by choice these liberties have been recanted.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I may be wrong here, so I'm just checking....doesn't it say, "A" religion. As in one. As in one. Not as in religion a whole or many.

When the chains begin to hurt...where are you going to go to be free again?
No, it doesn't use "a" for religion, rather for "an" establishment as a driver. The idea is as clear as there can be: protect the individual beliefs. Government should not be in the business of promoting and sponsoring certain religious belief, and "God" represents that.

Would you be okay if the slogan were changed to: One Nation under Goddess?

There is ABSOLUTELY no need to push ANY kind of religiosity (or lack of) as a collective. In fact, doing so, goes against the very grain this idea we see as first amendment was put in place for.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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Not going to get much support since congress start sessions with prayer.Ecvery president has started his presidency with his statements on his faith just has Obama did.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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Not going to get much support since congress start sessions with prayer.Ecvery president has started his presidency with his statements on his faith just has Obama did.
Collectivism leading to a mob mentality, usually has its way. If religion couldn't be used to such great effects, there would be no need to advertise your politics with religiosity slobbered all over it.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:02 PM
 
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No, it doesn't use "a" for religion, rather for "an" establishment as a driver. The idea is as clear as there can be: protect the individual beliefs. Government should not be in the business of promoting and sponsoring certain religious belief, and "God" represents that.

Would you be okay if the slogan were changed to: One Nation under Goddess?

There is ABSOLUTELY no need to push ANY kind of religiosity (or lack of) as a collective. In fact, doing so, goes against the very grain this idea we see as first amendment was put in place for.
No, I wouldn't be okay with Goddess, because that reflects Greece. I know we are headed down their path economically speaking...

I also know, that God was placed on our currency as a 'presentation' one in which all countries would be comfortable with and so now, we wish to change that. Why?

The original culture this country was founded on, is no longer acceptable. Again, why is that.

I know where this path leads, that is why I caution, it's not like I'm going to stop people from taking it as I also, believe we're intended to take the path. We are repetitive and living comfortable without tribulations in our lives, well that's just unheard of...so we create turbulence, least we get board with comfort.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Would it have been a Mormon Bible if Romney were elected? And if this nation grows up to actually elect an openly atheist or Muslim or a Hindu... would it still be a Bible to secure such oath? Why?
Errr, Mormons read the same Bible other Christians do...
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Errr, Mormons read the same Bible other Christians do...
You must be unaware of the "amendments".

Do you read the "Book of Mormons"?
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