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Thje problem with the S-300 SAM system is it can attack Israeli aircraft just after they have lifted off from Ben Gurion Airport and while they are still over Israeli airspace or the Med.
Russia's military is a joke. Israel could wipe the floor with them. And they would deserve it.
Yeah, because God will melt all the Russian planes...lmao.
Seriously, if Russians with Russian arms are no threat, you have to do some serious mental gymnastics to claim that Syrians with Russian arms are a threat warranting a possible regional war.
Good grief! You Israel haters are a crazy lot! They are surrounded by a bunch of whack job arabs, and they get rocketed every day, and they do not have the right to protect themselves? Israel is not even the aggressive party. You watch. They get attacked, and than they respond! As they did before, this would be a strike on the site receiving the weapon systems, and nothing more! Legit in a rational persons mind!
Ultimately I understand the positions of all three parties, but unfortunately this is a far more complicated situation that some are implying that is. For one, Russia has an obligation to fulfill to Syria due to contracts; think of it this way, what if Palestine/Gaza Strip yet again began preparing its cheap missiles to aim at Israel and the US decided it won't provide Israel with its 'Iron Dome' system, we'd essentially be leaving our 'ally' for stranded. Well the same applies to Syria and Russia, Israel has already attacked Syria therefore this warrants the need for protection which happens to be anti-aircraft missiles that could destroy Israeli aircraft.
From my understanding, Russia was going to scrap the contract until the EU lifted its Arms embargo to Syrian rebels. What is that about? Why provoke the beast? The US is pretty much the military of the EU therefore them deciding to project power or prove to Russia that they can provide weapons is essentially throwing us into the potential fight. Now is the timing wrong with all this? Of course, Russia could wait until next month for the conference between the US to attempt to resolve this and Israel and Syria could create a temporary treaty or armistice until the conference is done.
I understand Russia, Israel has the big weapons of the region and it's obvious that it wouldn't mind attacking Syria full on, but then again Russia needs to make sure it's ally is protected to 'balance power' but Russia needs to think is this the right regime to arm. Isn't this the same country that nearly shot down a Russian plane a few months ago? They really need to think of that before arming Assad. Now Russia and the USA, not Israel, could work on installing a puppet that aligns with both parties as opposed to one and that would mean Syria could have the missiles.
Or maybe the US could come up with a treaty with Russia that essentially says:
'Israel forfeits missiles and US provided aid and only will be restored in the need of war, and the Russian arming of the Middle East is ceased'
The probability of that happening is slim to none though.
Good grief! You Israel haters are a crazy lot! They are surrounded by a bunch of whack job arabs, and they get rocketed every day, and they do not have the right to protect themselves? Israel is not even the aggressive party. You watch. They get attacked, and than they respond! As they did before, this would be a strike on the site receiving the weapon systems, and nothing more! Legit in a rational persons mind!
Good grief! You Israel-Firsters are a crazy lot!
You want American citizens to subsidize the national defense of Israel, a foreign--and socialist--country, through forced confiscation of their hard-earned income. It's called forced wealth redistribution, and last I heard it was authorized nowhere in the Constitution.
You must be one of those crazy libs in Cap Hill or Uptown...
You want American citizens to subsidize the national defense of Israel, a foreign--and socialist--country, through forced confiscation of their hard-earned income. It's called forced wealth redistribution, and last I heard it was authorized nowhere in the Constitution.
You must be one of those crazy libs in Cap Hill or Uptown...
In regards to our elected officials supporting Israel, both parties are guilty of it but out of the general populace it seems as if Conservatives support Israel more than any Liberal does. Personally, I think something could be worked out to at least give Palestine sovereignty and recognition within the UN, Jersualem could become a city-state such as the Vatican and be supported by Israel and Palestine, Tel Aviv could remain the capital of Israel, and a adequate amount of land (not junk land either) is given to the people of Palenstine plus if the radicals ever leave, some financial aid could provided by the UN for the causing of this suffering.
In regards to our elected officials supporting Israel, both parties are guilty of it but out of the general populace it seems as if Conservatives support Israel more than any Liberal does. Personally, I think something could be worked out to at least give Palestine sovereignty and recognition within the UN, Jersualem could become a city-state such as the Vatican and be supported by Israel and Palestine, Tel Aviv could remain the capital of Israel, and a adequate amount of land (not junk land either) is given to the people of Palenstine plus if the radicals ever leave, some financial aid could provided by the UN for the causing of this suffering.
Neoconservatives support Israel and sending Americans to fight and die in their wars; as neocons are Trotskyites, their philosophy is more modern-day liberal than Old Right conservative.
What happens in that part of the world is THEIR business; not ours, and not mine. It is long past time for the U.S. government to get the hell out of there for good.
Taking sides in thousand-year old conflicts only makes things worse. Especially when MY money is stolen from me to support BOTH sides.
Attacking Russian shipments is an act of war. I mean it probably won't escalate to that but then again who thought in 1914 that the murder of a prince in Serbia would lead to world war?
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Originally Posted by EdwardA
Some conservatives are under the impression support of Israel is some sort of requisite. Utter nonsense and the founders would be aghast that our country is so deeply entangled in that part of the world.
I'm under no illusion Israel is the good guy in that part of the world but at the end of the day they decided to set up shop in a bad neighborhood ruled by Muslims for a thousand years.
If they can hold the Mohammedans at bay more power to them. If not oh well. Not sure what America has to do with it either way.
Can't argue with your position.
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Originally Posted by MilehiDenver
"colonial invaders"
That's a good one! Jews can trace their roots to this land as well! In fact there are many instances of temples, with mosques built on top of them!
So what.
Does every group have the right to resettlement on lands they used to inhabit many years ago? Why didn't you conservatives push for a Kurdish homeland?
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