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I've been saying it over and over again. The US is no longer the preferred destination for young European immigrants and instead both Canada and Australia are seen as the promised land where millions of EU citizens move to. Check out this video about young people leaving Ireland, notice how none of them are going to the US:
From talking with some friends who moved from Germany to Canada a few years back and from reading threads online I hear, over and over, that the US immigration and work visa policies are so strict it just is too hard so many don't bother. They also see it as a major positive that both Canada and Australia have true universal single payer health care where as the US is seen as backwards for not having single payer.
What are your experiences and if you have any links with more information I would love to see them.
The United States is still the most desirable migration destination among europeans, if i remember correctly. (Different studies have different results.)
But you nailed it , it is too difficult for them to migrate to the united states. Canada , NZ, and Australia have easier skilled immigration policies.
The reverse is also true. As an American it is pretty damn difficult to emigrate to Europe, especially the UK.
That article you posted, though, isn't about the ease of immigrating to America vs. Canada; it is about the Irish economy.
Sure; contribute to the good ones leaving and you can enjoy what's left behind at siesta time. Lot'sa fruit pickers but no engineers.
Helllooooo?
Not even many fruit pickers -- there are fewer than 1 million jobs in agriculture in the US today, it's not the hard work low wage jobs really bringing in the many millions coming.
We as a nation bring in by far more legal immigrants than any other nation on the planet but we make it very very easy for the most helpless and government dependent types of immigrants and quite difficult for those with job skills and an education.
What other country actually prefers the most indigent, least capable over skilled immigrants?
It's very very easy to come to the USA, come when you're 8 months pregnant, give birth on the taxpayer dime, you're in, you'll get a housing voucher, food stamps, WIC, and much much more, it won't cost you a dime.
What other country actually prefers the most indigent, least capable over skilled immigrants?
A lot of the very liberal countries, actually. They tend to let in refugees from war-torn countries , and keep out skilled migrants from developed countries. This is how you end up with so much ethnic tension in europe.
In recent years this process seems to have slowed, european politicians are closing their borders.
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It's very very easy to come to the USA
How do you figure? Are you talking about illegally "jumping the border" ?
What are your experiences and if you have any links with more information I would love to see them.
I lived in Europe for years. I met many people who wanted to immigrate to the United States, but there were four main reasons for not doing so:
1.) Could not get a visa
2.) Lack of healthcare was a major concern
3.) Misconceptions about crime
4.) Inability to speak English
I did know a Polish fellow who worked for a US company with operations in Poland. They wanted to transfer him to the United States when he could not speak English very well. He dug in his heels, asked for 12 months to study English on his own, and took his transfer a year later nearly fluent in English. (I helped him too.)
I loved that he refused to immigrate until he could speak English. Loved it.
I'm going to have to agree with this statement. I would pay good money to ship all the liberals out of this country.
With that said. In the past, I sort of idealized Europe. There are some real advantages to a socialist(nanny) state. It is the perfect example of exchanging freedom for security. And most people are more interested in security than freedom, or even success. That is especially true of women. Also, the appearance of equality(although it doesn't really exist), makes people feel a bit more content that things are going well.
The sad reality is that, Europe is a sinking ship. Its current model is unsustainable. The policies in Europe will destroy it. From its welfare system to its immigration system, the idealism of the system doesn't stand up to reality. And I simply don't see a future for most of Europe. With the exception of resource-based European economies, such as Norway and Sweden.
I'm going to have to agree with this statement. I would pay good money to ship all the liberals out of this country.
With that said. In the past, I sort of idealized Europe. There are some real advantages to a socialist(nanny) state. It is the perfect example of exchanging freedom for security. And most people are more interested in security than freedom, or even success. That is especially true of women. Also, the appearance of equality(although it doesn't really exist), makes people feel a bit more content that things are going well.
The sad reality is that, Europe is a sinking ship. Its current model is unsustainable. The policies in Europe will destroy it. From its welfare system to its immigration system, the idealism of the system doesn't stand up to reality. And I simply don't see a future for most of Europe. With the exception of resource-based European economies, such as Norway and Sweden.
Lets be clear. I didn't advocate "shipping" anyone anywhere. Dude said he was contemplating "leaving".
I don't have a problem pitching in to his "Bon Voyage".
If Europe is such a utopia why are so many leaving in the first place?
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