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Old 05-31-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: North America
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Without homosexual thoughts and/or voluntary homosexual behavior, what would define a person as homosexual?

If nothing else besides thoughts and voluntary behavior define a person as homosexual, isn't homosexuality, by definition, voluntary?






Discuss.

Loving someone of your own sex.

And, no, it isn't voluntary. You're born that way. You no more choose to be a homosexual than you choose to be black.

 
Old 05-31-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Someone who obsesses constantly posts about homosexuals is probably a homosexual.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So are these people denied a fundamental civil right if they are prohibited from marrying a member of their own sex?

If so, shall we now set aside special accommodations in the law for people who think a certain way or engage in certain voluntary behaviors?
Marriage is a voluntary behavior. Who you are attracted to is not a voluntary behavior.

When Loving V Virginia was heard they made it legal to marry someone of a different race. Marrying someone of a different race is a voluntary behavior. Why can't people just marry someone of the same race?

Same thing, but insert gender. It is illegal to discriminate based on gender, so if there are laws and privileges that have to do with marriage, then they can't discriminate based on gender.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Totally off topic, but I thought you were arguing with yourself for a minute.

Guess you two are seeking different things, hehe.
Harrier occasionally argues with himself.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Jesus is the King of all Creation who will judge the un-saved at the great White Throne Judgment. You don't want to be there. Homosexuality is an abominable act to God. Even murder is not called an abomination in the Bible.
No, but eating shellfish is.

And don't forget about winged insects that go about on all fours. (?)

And menstruating women.

And divorce.

And so many other things that you guys don't harp on every day. Maybe you should go picket Red Lobster.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I think you do need proof.
You exis,t as does the universe - that is all the proof neccesary.

If you won't accept that - then you are being intentionally ignorant.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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You exis,t as does the universe - that is all the proof neccesary.

If you won't accept that - then you are being intentionally ignorant.

I don't think you know what the word "ignorant" means, though your statement above does exemplify the definition of the term.



"The Universe is proof God exists." Who/what created God?

I don't understand people who cannot fathom a universe as complex as ours popping into being using the scientific theories that explain a non-god origin of the universe..... yet those same people can believe an all-knowing, all-powerful entity, who has always existed and who will always exist.... came into being.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Without homosexual thoughts and/or voluntary homosexual behavior, what would define a person as homosexual?

If nothing else besides thoughts and voluntary behavior define a person as homosexual, isn't homosexuality, by definition, voluntary?






Discuss.
This is a stupid question. What defines a person as heterosexual without voluntary hetro thoughts and or behavior? Jezzzz, Don't be so obvious.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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You exis,t as does the universe - that is all the proof neccesary.

If you won't accept that - then you are being intentionally ignorant.
If God does exist, he isn't anything like the God you describe, if he was the entire universe would be a cesspool.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I don't understand people who cannot fathom a universe as complex as ours popping into being using the scientific theories that explain a non-god origin of the universe......
There are no rational non-god origins of the universe.

There was a "primordial soup" and it defied all the laws of nature and "evolved" into complex ecosystems and lifeforms?

Really?
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