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Old 05-31-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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Except that President Nixon knew and authorized the break-in. Thus, the President of the United States was a co-conspirator to a crime -- not including the cover up. On March 28 on Nixon's orders, aide John Ehrlichman told Attorney General Richard Kleindienst that nobody in the White House had prior knowledge of the burglary.That wasn't true. Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Dean and other White House officials were implicated in the coverup.

According to Wiki: "On March 1, 1974, a grand jury in Washington, D.C., indicted several former aides of President Nixon, who became known as the "Watergate Seven": Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell, Charles Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian and Kenneth Parkinson, for conspiring to hinder the Watergate investigation. The grand jury secretly named President Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator."

Comparing that to Benghazi, after 9 hearings, nobody can identify any wrongdoing by Obama. That's a big difference -- especially considering embassy attacks are not uncommon. There were 13 embassy attacks during the Bush Administration, resulting in dozens of deaths. Yet, there wasn't countless inquisitions blaming the then president.
I would like to know why.
The Congress elected in 2006 should have initiated just as many inquisitions on Bush.

Were they not doing their job?
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Comparing that to Benghazi, after 9 hearings, nobody can identify any wrongdoing by Obama. That's a big difference -- especially considering embassy attacks are not uncommon. There were 13 embassy attacks during the Bush Administration, resulting in dozens of deaths. Yet, there wasn't countless inquisitions blaming the then president.
Why do you libs continue to build this particular strawman?

Let me say it very clearly : no one claims that President Obama had anything to do with the terrorist attack on the embassy in Benghazi.

He did use poor judgment when assigning security to the embassy and his administration executed a cover-up following the attack.

You can't handle the truth, so you misrepresent the charges.

Put even more simply - 4 people died and President Obama lied.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Read it and eat it, neo-cons:

The National Memo » Watergate Amnesia, The “Nixonian” Slur, And Other Big Lies

Let’s state this very simply, so everybody will understand. The notion that Barack Obama is “Nixonian” — or that his administration’s recent troubles bear any resemblance to “Watergate” — is the biggest media lie since the phony “Whitewater scandal” crested during the Clinton presidency.

Fraudulent as it is, we have listened repeatedly to versions of this bogus comparison uttered by figures as diverse as former Fox News commentator Dick Morris and Bob Woodward of the Washington Post, alongside a phalanx of Republican politicians, including Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) – whose latest attack ad directly links Obama with Nixon.

Only in a country afflicted with chronic historical amnesia could they issue such accusations without shame or embarrassment. Only under those circumstances could the Republicans continue their fitful fabrication of a “Democratic Watergate” without fear of being laughed off the stage. It is a project that they will never grow tired of pursuing.
The National Memo -- "Exposing Hypocrisy. Unmasking Plutocracy. Defending Democracy. Every Day." For those that don't know it already, Plutocracy is on of those fun political buzzwords that Democrats just love, referencing the tyrannical rule of the ultra-rich. The use of the word just screams loud and clear, "We are a propagandist sounding board for the Democratic Party. We're completely biased and aren't even attempting to offer up a balanced viewpoint."

Yeah great source there.

There have been many many scandals that are comparable to Watergate. End of the day, Watergate was a pretty small event. The crimes committed: One political party spying on another illegally. Anyone remember the ill-gotten 47% quote by Mitt Romney this past election? That's basically what Watergate was -- spying on the other party looking for something to use against them. Puzzling that there was no witch hunt over that little affair, but whatever. Ultimately, Nixon didn't cover his tracks sufficiently. Every president since knows better because of him.

Obama will probably not be directly implicated in any crimes, but the crimes we're talking about now are much more heinous. Yes embassy attacks have happened before Benghazi, but how many Ambassadors were killed? None. Why? They had sufficient military and personal protection. The Obama administration failed to protect their highest ranking diplomat in Libya, leading to the first death of one of our Ambassadors since 1978. Christopher Stevens was only the seventh US ambassador to be murdered in our nations history. All seven were within a 10 year period from 1968 to 1978 -- so obviously we had learned how to better protect them ... until the Obama administration fell down on the job. That isn't necessarily a crime, but the administration is acting like it is. They refuse to disclose information. They do a lot of the same double-talk you hear from criminals.

The assault on the press is huge. Going after phone records of two different news organizations that we know of so far, while failing to go about it legally, is a dangerous thing. Any hint that the government is knowingly targeting the media should send up red flags everywhere. Letting them get away with it now will embolden this and future administrations. It's always in the best interests of those in power to control the message, so the slippery slope here is obvious. We do not want to become a nation where the government only tells you the news they want you to hear and only in the way that they want you to hear it.

The IRS scandal is the worst of them. Obama actually did come up with at list of organizations that were political enemies to his cause and branded them as corrupt, criminal and in need of investigating. I'm sure he covered his tracks just fine, but you'd have to be crazy to think that he was not involved. An administration or political party using the IRS as it's personal attack dog? Left unchecked, how could any other political party survive? Very scary!

These scandals will probably not see Obama resign or impeached. He's got people loyal enough to him to take a bullet or life in prison for him. He probably covered his tracks very well. But these things are a lot worse that Watergate.
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Old 05-31-2013, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Here's another interesting take on the Nixon-Obama comparison. This came out before the IRS scandal.

Nixon has won Watergate: Column
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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The Day the Obama Administration Went All Nixon On Us
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Nixon was more than Watergate. Read up on the Committee to Reelect and the Dirty Tricks campaign.

Obama is EXACTLY like Nixon.

Leftists are too stupid or embarrassed to admit it.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:52 AM
 
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Nixon was more than Watergate. Read up on the Committee to Reelect and the Dirty Tricks campaign.

Obama is EXACTLY like Nixon.

Leftists are too stupid or embarrassed to admit it.
No, we get a laugh out of you neocons and how futile all your efforts to get rid of and discredit Obama have been.

Obama is nothing like Nixon, despite the wishful thinking of the regressive radical right.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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That opinion - that Obama is nothing like Nixon - is just plain ignorant.

As always, leftists can't handle the truth.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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Ok, spell it out; how has anything Obama has actually done come close to the things we know Nixon did?
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Read it and eat it, neo-cons:

The National Memo » Watergate Amnesia, The “Nixonian” Slur, And Other Big Lies

Let’s state this very simply, so everybody will understand. The notion that Barack Obama is “Nixonian” — or that his administration’s recent troubles bear any resemblance to “Watergate” — is the biggest media lie since the phony “Whitewater scandal” crested during the Clinton presidency.

Fraudulent as it is, we have listened repeatedly to versions of this bogus comparison uttered by figures as diverse as former Fox News commentator Dick Morris and Bob Woodward of the Washington Post, alongside a phalanx of Republican politicians, including Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) – whose latest attack ad directly links Obama with Nixon.

Only in a country afflicted with chronic historical amnesia could they issue such accusations without shame or embarrassment. Only under those circumstances could the Republicans continue their fitful fabrication of a “Democratic Watergate” without fear of being laughed off the stage. It is a project that they will never grow tired of pursuing.
Ewww, a left wing blogger doesn't like it when Obama is compared with Nixon. I guess that settles it then.

Face it, Nixon was in the little leagues compared to Obama. The lies, corruption, criminal acts and retaliation against real or alleged opponents go far deeper under the current administration. The IRS was never used as a retaliatory tool by Nixon. No one died under Nixon. The lies to the public weren't nearly as deep.
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