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Old 06-01-2013, 04:41 AM
 
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Your a phony and a liar who pretends republicans care about the poor and middle class.

45,000 Americans die each year from not having health insurance, do republicans want to help them?
Answer: No republicans fight to withhold insurance from them.

Republicans are against the government giving children healthy school lunches.
As GOP Seeks Cuts To Child Nutrition Programs, Democratic Rep. Pushes To Expand School Lunches | ThinkProgress


Republicans are against high min wage laws for Americas poor workers.
They are against earned income tax credits for Americas poor workers.
They are against helping middle class foreclosure victims.
They are against helping bankrupt middle class people.
They are against welfare for the poor.

The fact is you can't list a single time republicans helped the poor or middle class, and you sit here and lie about republicans caring about people.


The fact is all you want is tax cuts like these,

Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress

That whole $6.6 trillion dollars would have been added to America's national debt, and built US factories in China. AND YOU STILL WANT IT.

But like Rush radio says "the rich made all the right choices."
I guess the fact that I debunked and destroyed your lie about warren buffet paying a lower tax rate than his secretary bothered you. I don't believe I have ever met someone who made minimum wage. in fact, I believe the minimum wage when I began working was $3.75 an hour. the first job I got, with zero experience, paid $6 an hour. foreclosure and bankruptcy are brought on by terrible decisions. they are not "victims." I never once claimed republicans "cared" about people. no politicians "care" about people. they "care" about elections. oh, and providing two links to a left wing terrorist website will do little to prove your point.

 
Old 06-01-2013, 04:55 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Actually no. Switzerland has 0% capital gainst tax. That is lower than the US 15% capital gains taxes. And as shown the income taxes in Switzerland are lower too.

And US has one of the most progressive tax systems in the world. When you picked Switzerland, you picked wrong battle.


No, some republicans are saying that. You need to get away from the thought that Republican=conservatives, There are conservative Democrats, and conservative Europeans. Are they responsible for what the GOP does?

Also, Scandinavian countries don't have school lunches at all. It is not because people are so right wing, but because it was never introduced.


In every country there is always someone fighting against change, or else it would already be changed. I am quite sure if US introduced public health care in the 70s, then Republicans would have not advocating going back.

In fact republicans such as Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman introduced health care for all in their states.


Listen to billionaire Warren Buffet in the following video.
(click the blue words below the screen to watch)


Warren Buffett, Secretary Debbie Bosanek Discuss Tax Rate Inequality in Interview - YouTube




Billionaires have a 17% federal tax rate.
And Americans who make $90,000 a year have a 30%+ federal tax rate.

You said "the US has one of the most progressive tax systems in the world."

Are you retarded ??



And Switzerland taxes its billionaires personal income at 40%.
America taxes billionaires personal income at 17%.

You should learn what personal income is.


Switzerland does give foreign billionaires low personal tax rates (but this is only to get their money into Switzerland.)
 
Old 06-01-2013, 04:55 AM
 
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How do you figure that greece and spain are more "socialist" than Germany, Denmark, and the Netherlands?
Social programs bankrupted those countries. Have you been living under a rock?

Socialist economics is the sole reason why Europe is having financial difficulty right now.

Pull your head out of your behind.

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Old 06-01-2013, 05:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Listen to billionaire Warren Buffet in the following video.
(click the blue words below the screen to watch)


Warren Buffett, Secretary Debbie Bosanek Discuss Tax Rate Inequality in Interview - YouTube




Billionaires have a 17% federal tax rate.
And Americans who make $90,000 a year have a 30%+ federal tax rate.

You said "the US has one of the most progressive tax systems in the world."

Are you retarded ??



And Switzerland taxes its billionaires personal income at 40%.
America taxes billionaires personal income at 17%.

You should learn what personal income is.


Switzerland does give foreign billionaires low personal tax rates (but this is only to get their money into Switzerland.)
and you, like buffet, should learn the difference between an income tax, and a capital gains tax. especially when raising the capital gains tax would affect 100,000,000 americans. it's also a fact that the lower the capital gains tax, the higher the government revenue. so you'd have less of that precious wealth to give to those not willing to provide for themselves.
 
Old 06-01-2013, 05:08 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I guess the fact that I debunked and destroyed your lie about warren buffet paying a lower tax rate than his secretary bothered you. I don't believe I have ever met someone who made minimum wage. in fact, I believe the minimum wage when I began working was $3.75 an hour. the first job I got, with zero experience, paid $6 an hour. foreclosure and bankruptcy are brought on by terrible decisions. they are not "victims." I never once claimed republicans "cared" about people. no politicians "care" about people. they "care" about elections. oh, and providing two links to a left wing terrorist website will do little to prove your point.

Heres Forbes saying Warren Buffett had a 11% tax rate.
Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes


This source shows Dick Cheney has a 13% tax rate.
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/bushchen.pdf


This source shows how Mitt Romney has a 14% tax rate.
Mitt Romney Taxes: Campaign Releasing 2011 Returns


You're a joke.
 
Old 06-01-2013, 05:11 AM
 
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Heres Forbes saying Warren Buffett had a 11% tax rate.
Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes


This source shows Dick Cheney has a 13% tax rate.
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/bushchen.pdf


This source shows how Mitt Romney has a 14% tax rate.
Mitt Romney Taxes: Campaign Releasing 2011 Returns


You're a joke.
again, you are comparing a capital gains tax to an income tax. buffet's secretary has a 401k, which would be affected by an increase in the capital gains tax. the real joke is that you refuse to acknowledge this simple fact. if your precious IRS didn't make it so confusing as to what is, and is not income, we wouldn't have these problems. but liberals view any simplification of the tax code as "right wing."
 
Old 06-01-2013, 05:15 AM
 
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Heres Forbes saying Warren Buffett had a 11% tax rate.
Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes


This source shows Dick Cheney has a 13% tax rate.
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/bushchen.pdf


This source shows how Mitt Romney has a 14% tax rate.
Mitt Romney Taxes: Campaign Releasing 2011 Returns


You're a joke.
speaking of jokes, these are your claims.

someone making $90,000 pays 30% in federal taxes.
someone making a billion dollars pays a measly 17% in federal taxes.

in other words, one person pays $27,000 in taxes, while the other person pays $170,000,000 in taxes. perhaps you're right. this is unfair.
 
Old 06-01-2013, 05:15 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Originally Posted by lionsgators View Post
and you, like buffet, should learn the difference between an income tax, and a capital gains tax. especially when raising the capital gains tax would affect 100,000,000 americans. it's also a fact that the lower the capital gains tax, the higher the government revenue. so you'd have less of that precious wealth to give to those not willing to provide for themselves.
The experts say lowering capital gains tax rates (decrease revenues.)

Policy Points: Experts Agree That Capital Gains Tax Cuts Lose Revenue — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


Cutting capital gains rates reduces revenues over the long run. That’s the conclusion of the federal government’s official revenue-estimating agencies, as well as outside experts and the Bush Administration’s own Treasury Department.

While a capital gains tax cut can lead investors to rush to “cash in” their capital gains when the lower rate first takes effect, it does not raise revenue over the long run.
 
Old 06-01-2013, 05:18 AM
 
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The experts say lowering capital gains tax rates (decrease revenues.)

Policy Points: Experts Agree That Capital Gains Tax Cuts Lose Revenue — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


Cutting capital gains rates reduces revenues over the long run. That’s the conclusion of the federal government’s official revenue-estimating agencies, as well as outside experts and the Bush Administration’s own Treasury Department.

While a capital gains tax cut can lead investors to rush to “cash in” their capital gains when the lower rate first takes effect, it does not raise revenue over the long run.

you just admitted that lowering the capital gains rates raises revenue. you also haven't tackled the fact that `100,000,000 americans are affected by this tax.
 
Old 06-01-2013, 05:25 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
6,354 posts, read 3,654,438 times
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Originally Posted by lionsgators View Post
speaking of jokes, these are your claims.

someone making $90,000 pays 30% in federal taxes.
someone making a billion dollars pays a measly 17% in federal taxes.

in other words, one person pays $27,000 in taxes, while the other person pays $170,000,000 in taxes. perhaps you're right. this is unfair.

Heres Forbes saying W. Buffet has a 11% tax rate.
Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes

Dick Cheney has a 13% tax rate.
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/bushchen.pdf



These sources clearly show someone making 90,000 has a 28% tax rate.
Tax Brackets (Federal Income Tax Rates) 2000 through 2013
Updated: 2013 Federal Income Tax Brackets And Marginal Rates


Warren Buffet has a 11% tax rate.
Americans who make $90,000 a year have a 28% tax rate.
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