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Old 05-31-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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i have just come to a conclusion that democracy is slowly killing western civilisation. there was once a point when democracy was good. it would swap powers between different people to stop dictatorships from forming bad governments..

however, this is also bad because it also means that it would swap powers to stop good governments from continuing their reign..

another bad thing about democracy is all new government policies are usually short-term.. eg fiscal policy... in the USA, Bush came into power in 2001.. he only has 4 years to make a good impression.. the only way he can make a good impression is to grow the gdp and create jobs for people to get their vote for the next election.. in order to keep in power, he is forced take a short term approach to the economy, which means long term plans have to be of suffering and in the form of debt. each president that comes in, leaves the next president with big debt, and then the next with a bigger debt.. kinda like musical chairs.

ANOTHER bad thing is, does democracy really stop bad governments from forming and staying in power ??.. Hitler got into power through democracy ??.. so did saddam hussein (by rigging votes, but vote rigging is another flaw of democracy)

yet ANOTHER bad thing about democracy is.. would you really trust a mass of uninformed voters to decide what kind of economic policy is best for the rest of the 49% of the population ?? unless 51% of the population had Phd's in economics haha.. unlikely.

Will democracy, and its lack of responsibility for the long term, cause western civilisation to collapse ?

examples of non-dictatorship countries that are not in democracy.. Bahrain, Bhutan, Jordan, Kuwait, Lichtenstein, Monaco, Morocco, Tonga, UAE, Qatar.

if you're in power and you have a clear, positive, productive plans for the future.. why should you need to be taken out of power ?
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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It's not democracy's fault - it's people's fault.

It could be people who cheat the system, break the rules, and get away with because of connections. It could be people that don't take the time to know the issues and vote. It could be politicians that take advantage of the system to buy votes for people instead of honestly sharing their views - or politicians that merely look out for their best interests instead of their constituents. We need to face facts that there are a large group of people OK with cheating and breaking the rules as long as their side wins.

It's a whole collection of sins done by various people. As long as people are involved, civilizations and cultures will fail at some point in time. There will never be a perfect society created by humans.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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This tripe again? The Fascists must be out for the summer. Hey OP, if you don't like Democracies, go live in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Is this another Con wishing we had a king in power?
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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This tripe again? The Fascists must be out for the summer. Hey OP, if you don't like Democracies, go live in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Iran has democracy.. saudi arabia has too much law.. UAE or Monaco, however.. don't mind if i do..
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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This tripe again? The Fascists must be out for the summer. Hey OP, if you don't like Democracies, go live in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
i'm a fascist because i think democracy is inefficient ?? do you even know what fascist means ?? LMAOO .

Iran has democracy.. saudi arabia has too much law.. UAE or Monaco, however.. don't mind if i do..
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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I like Democracy, I just personally think that voting should be a privilege, not a right. I've never quite understood the social value in voter participation. To me, encouraging voting among non-voters is like saying we want to put the fate of the country in the hands of the least intelligent, most apathetic people.

However as an American, that's not how our system works, so we'll just have to hope for the best.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: North America
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The US isn't a democracy, we're a Republic.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:01 AM
 
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It's not democracy's fault - it's people's fault.

It could be people who cheat the system, break the rules, and get away with because of connections. It could be people that don't take the time to know the issues and vote. It could be politicians that take advantage of the system to buy votes for people instead of honestly sharing their views - or politicians that merely look out for their best interests instead of their constituents. We need to face facts that there are a large group of people OK with cheating and breaking the rules as long as their side wins.

It's a whole collection of sins done by various people. As long as people are involved, civilizations and cultures will fail at some point in time. There will never be a perfect society created by humans.
no one "cheats" the system, they just simply play by the rules.. its just flawed in its nature. voters decide which politician has policies which are in THEIR best interest.. but what do MOST voters know about what kind of economic policy is ACTUALLY better for them ?? they are 99% most likely to go for the one that benefits them NOW, but that policy isn't usually the best for everyone, or even them in the future..

when you are feeling sick.. you let a doctor find the best remedy for you.. when you have a tooth ache.. you let a dentist see what the problem is and fix it.. when you want your country have a sound fiscal policy.. you let proven economists have debates and let THEM decide which policies are best for you and which policies work... you do NOT give that responsibility to the public majority, who have no economic knowledge.

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Old 05-31-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Like I posted before, Switzerland is the closest thing the world has to a true democracy. And that has worked out very well for them. Most of the countries you talk about aren't even close to true democracies. The problem is plutocracy.
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