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Old 05-31-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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hey liberal California the socialist turd in the WH is giving you a major anal exam!

Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare To Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums By 64-146% - Forbes

 
Old 05-31-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Depends on which news story a person reads and believes.

Wonkbook: Some very good news for Obamacare

Why do you keep calling yourself names?

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Old 05-31-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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I'll believe it when I see it OP. Until then, you are just fear mongering.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The rates are doing their biggest increases, only in the heavily-populated areas.... where the people who voted for it, live.

That would sound almost fair to me.... except that the leftists will soon change things to "even things out" and spread the misery equally to all.

http://b-i.forbesimg.com/theapotheca...shock-map1.png

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Old 05-31-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Republicans are going to sweep the midterms because of Obamacare.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Republicans are going to sweep the midterms because of Obamacare.
Nah.. that would be nice but not really the case.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: California
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Actually for me, 50+ in the Bay Area with a preexisting condition, the exchange rates are lower than they expected by over $200 a month. And the expected rate was already several hundered lower than COBRA would cost me. Basically, I can get a policy for around $500 instead of $1100.

I understand the rates will go up for some and it IS an "even out" type of thing since there was such disparity with issues like pregnancy (most companies just excluded it) and whatnot that those who didn't seem to need anything paid very little compared to those who may have needed it for something due to their gender, age, health history, etc. I am talking individual insurance here, which is always a surprise to those used to the company plan model. Health insurance IS EXPENSIVE and has been way more expensive than many realize when it's part of their compensation.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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Good. It's about time liberals started paying for their stupidity at the polls.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Actually for me, 50+ in the Bay Area with a preexisting condition, the exchange rates are lower than they expected by over $200 a month. And the expected rate was already several hundered lower than COBRA would cost me. Basically, I can get a policy for around $500 instead of $1100.

I understand the rates will go up for some and it IS an "even out" type of thing since there was such disparity with issues like pregnancy (most companies just excluded it) and whatnot that those who didn't seem to need anything paid very little compared to those who may have needed it for something due to their gender, age, health history, etc. I am talking individual insurance here, which is always a surprise to those used to the company plan model. Health insurance IS EXPENSIVE and has been way more expensive than many realize when it's part of their compensation.
Excellent points. Few people have had to buy health insurance on the "open" market and most would be stunned to discover just how expensive those plans are. We've taken for granted, or been simply ignorant of, how much employers have subsidized those costs over the years.

From what I've read, CA is expecting costs to be generally lower than anticipated for the exchanges, and that is a very good thing.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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Salon article today

How liberals saved California by wrestling all power away from the state's Republican Party
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