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Old 06-01-2013, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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He spent like were at war though.

Besides, Reagan stuck his nose in many a foreign conflict during his presidency. Lets not kid ourselves.
Not really.

He bombed Libya after they blew up a German night club.

He went into Greneda to kick out the commies.

Compare that to Clinton. Bosnia, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Serbia, etc....Just a few of the Muslim countries he invaded or bombed.

Funny how Democrats wanna act like it's Repblicans are starting wars all the time when it's a fact that they are the war party.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Got anything in the last half century?

Bosnia, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Serbia, etc....

All Muslim countries that Democratic presidents invaded or bombed. All in the last 20 years.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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My question is why any of this matters. Let's argue what current politicians on both sides want to do. Both are fairly hawkish, but the rhetoric from the right has definitely been more aggressive.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Were they now ? What about beirut ? Or how about the iran contra controversy ? Keep believing saint reagan did no wrong. The man screwed this country for a very long time and we felt what happens when you enact bad policies and than double down on them with Bush 2 and his irresponsible cowboy ways !
And what policies of Reagan/Bush did Clinton overturn???? That's right. None.

And what policies of Bush2 did Obama overturn???? That's right. None.

Funny you mention "The Bush Wars" and forget to mention Bosnia, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Serbia, etc....All wars started by Democrats in the last 20 years that have nothing to do with national security. But I guess it is all right by you as long as our cowboy wars are run by Democrats.

By the way, President Clinton said we would be out of Bosnia in one year and nine years later GW Bush withdrew the troops. The mass graves with hundreds of thousands of bodies were never found either. But why should that bother a Democrat? They never met a Muslim country they didn't enjoy bombing.

Democrats= Purveyors of hypocritical lies and ignorance.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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My question is why any of this matters. Let's argue what current politicians on both sides want to do. Both are fairly hawkish, but the rhetoric from the right has definitely been more aggressive.
The rhetoric from the left is just as hawkish.

The media just portrays it how they want to.

Look up some of the things said about Iraq and Iran in particular.

There were also many Republicans that never wanted to go into Iraq in 2003. Not their fault if the media ignored them. Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan and the John Birch Society people come to mind.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The rhetoric from the left is just as hawkish.

The media just portrays it how they want to.

Look up some of the things said about Iraq and Iran in particular.

There were also many Republicans that never wanted to go into Iraq in 2003. Not their fault if the media ignored them. Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan and the John Birch Society people come to mind.
Talking about right here, right now, my man. The GOP advocated harsher action against Iran than the Democrats did this past election season. What each side said 10 years ago is of little interest to me.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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None of us forget the Vietnam War. It was partly from the lessons of Vietnam that we were so strongly opposed to the invasion of Iraq.

Frankly, Johnson would have been a great president if it were not for Vietnam.
You are spot on! When I heard all the saber rattling over Iraq I was just in shock that we could make the same mistake as Vietnam so soon again. It might have helped had Bush, Cheney and all the chicken hawk, draft-dodgers like them had served in combat in VN. There likely would never have been an Iraq war if that were the case.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:10 PM
 
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And what policies of Reagan/Bush did Clinton overturn???? That's right. None.

And what policies of Bush2 did Obama overturn???? That's right. None.

Funny you mention "The Bush Wars" and forget to mention Bosnia, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Serbia, etc....All wars started by Democrats in the last 20 years that have nothing to do with national security. But I guess it is all right by you as long as our cowboy wars are run by Democrats.

By the way, President Clinton said we would be out of Bosnia in one year and nine years later GW Bush withdrew the troops. The mass graves with hundreds of thousands of bodies were never found either. But why should that bother a Democrat? They never met a Muslim country they didn't enjoy bombing.

Democrats= Purveyors of hypocritical lies and ignorance.
Your right, clinton and obama didn't overturn a thing either of the bushes did. So why weren't cons saying anything?

The last election I voted for the green party not dems or pubs, I view them both as traitors to the american people. And the voters who put these people into power as a bunch of idiots


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Old 06-02-2013, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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I don't see how this is a partisan issue. Vietnam was stupid, and so was Iraq. Seems like we should learn from history, not mine it for partisan gotchas.
Exactly. Obama and Libya was a big mistake. And now he is eyeing Syria. Until all of you realize both parties are the same nothing will change, never ending wars.
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Old 06-02-2013, 04:05 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Why do you forget it was Eisenhower who began our involvement by sending 'advisors' to South Vietnam?

Why do you forget that South Vietnam refused to participate in the 1955 elections specified in the Geneva accords and the Republican POTUS had every opportunity to wash US hands of them at that time?
Because it's convenient for right wingers, or, they have what's called "selective memory".
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