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Old 06-03-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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We have been deceiving ourselves long enough. This country does not stand for peace or freedom. We have been slaughtering the innocent and acquiring the resources of other nations, under the fiction that "we are here to help".
Listen up, if you dare look in the mirror.
I don't care what you think you know about David Icke, this man is brilliant. If you haven't followed him, or read any of his books, then you don't know who he is. Listen and learn.
This thread is not about David, it about how we deceive ourselves.

David Icke - Thoughts From New York On 'John Wayne America' - David Icke Website
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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Feel free to leave.

Icke is an idiot.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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He's right on. Nationalism simply puts a veil of apathy on everything that happens outside our border. We are not the best country in any capacity, yet we typically shudder at the idea of adopting policies of successful nations. Bass ackwarda ideology if you ask me.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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Icke is an idiot.

It was worth the look, I haven't heard "Ballad of the Green Beret" in awhile - thanks claudhopper!

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Old 06-03-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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I don't know anything about David Icke but it's been obvious for quite some time that things aren't right here in America. Consider that the US Department of Justice hasn't gone after a single Wall Street Fat Cat who caused the global economic collapse yet a young activist who figured out a way to make available, for free, publicly funded research is persecuted to the point were he commits suicide.

It gets worse, the man who exposed war crimes committed in all US citizen's names (the video is titled Collateral Murder) has been held for three years without a trail. Instead of the men who ordered those war crimes going to prison it looks like the whistleblower will be the one spending an extended time behind bars. That shouldn't come as any surprise, though, because the man who exposed the CIA's torture program is in jail while the CIA officers who literally tortured prisoners to death are free and walking the streets.

Whistleblowers like Thomas Drake (charged under the Espionage Act) and William Binney (arrested at gun point by Robert Mueller's corrupt FBI) warned us that the NSA is spying on innocent law-abiding citizens. At first this was dismissed as being merely paranoid delusion until the domestic wiretapping program was eventually exposed and the US Congress sneakily gave blanket immunity to the telecommunications companies who willfully conspired with the government to break the law.

Seriously, if this isn't enough to convince you that the United States is in big trouble then I can start another post detailing how we got to be nearly $17,000,000,000,000 in debt and hemorrhaging an additional 1 trillion a year. Oh, and did I forget to mention that Baby Boomers are going on Social Security at a rate of roughly 10,000 per day?
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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I don't know anything about David Icke but it's been obvious for quite some time that things aren't right here in America. Consider that the US Department of Justice hasn't gone after a single Wall Street Fat Cat who caused the global economic collapse yet a young activist who figured out a way to make available, for free, publicly funded research is persecuted to the point were he commits suicide.

It gets worse, the man who exposed war crimes committed in all US citizen's names (the video is titled Collateral Murder) has been held for three years without a trail. Instead of the men who ordered those war crimes going to prison it looks like the whistleblower will be the one spending an extended time behind bars. That shouldn't come as any surprise, though, because the man who exposed the CIA's torture program is in jail while the CIA officers who literally tortured prisoners to death are free and walking the streets.

Whistleblowers like Thomas Drake (charged under the Espionage Act) and William Binney (arrested at gun point by Robert Mueller's corrupt FBI) warned us that the NSA is spying on innocent law-abiding citizens. At first this was dismissed as being merely paranoid delusion until the domestic wiretapping program was eventually exposed and the US Congress sneakily gave blanket immunity to the telecommunications companies who willfully conspired with the government to break the law.

Seriously, if this isn't enough to convince you that the United States is in big trouble then I can start another post detailing how we got to be nearly $17,000,000,000,000 in debt and hemorrhaging an additional 1 trillion a year. Oh, and did I forget to mention that Baby Boomers are going on Social Security at a rate of roughly 10,000 per day?
The bust was a legacy of Clinton, Frank and Dodd meddling creating the subprime mortgage mess. Not the Wall Street fat cat.

When working for an organization that requires a security clearance also requires you to disclose nothing with National Security implications. They did. And there was no spying on US citizens.

And your hero squatting ion the WH is spending the US into oblivion.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:24 AM
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Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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If you don't love it, leave it. Libs have been bashing everything this country has stood for for years. Of course, when they get their little man in the white house, what does he do? More of the same. More rewarding bad behavior among the public, more killing of civilians here and abroad, more picking winners and losers in the corporate realm, more money slinging in the direction of the professional gamblers on Wallstreet. It will never end because there is a white shoe boy club, and Joe Sixpack ain't invited. Just so long as it's a communist calling the punches, *******s will find satisfaction enough with that. At the end of the day, the only thing Joe Sixpack he has going for him is we have the food stamp president ready to hand out goodies to anyone who has reproduced.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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I can't wait until 2016 when we can get this moron out of office.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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If you don't love it, leave it. Libs have been bashing everything this country has stood for for years.
Gee, from reading the posts on this forum one would get the impression that liberals don't have monopoly on bashing the country or the government.


As for love it or leave it...

A little advice from Mother Jones for both the left and the right, "don't mourn, organize." Don't like it, change it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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I thought the "love it or leave it" mantra was absurd in the sixties when it was the anthem of those who were making America a mockery in the eyes of the world, changing the way government works was, and always will be the basis for the U.S. constitution and rightfully so in a revolutionary nation like ours. The present polarization of our populace can only lead to something ugly in the end, the vile and vain have resorted to the most hateful slogans in order to advance their cause, whatever that may be. It takes some real brains to sit down and intelligently discuss something, unfortunately, America seems to come up short on that note more often than not. Some people now rely on name calling and vitriol to demonstrate their superiority, but, as always, this kind of behavior usually demonstrates the opposite.
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