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Old 06-03-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Typo...2nd Amendment
f the whole purpose of 2nmendment is to prevent tyranny, does it make sense to have a national database of firearms?

Kept by the government? Think about it liberals.
No. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to provide a means for a militia in the absence of a standing army. Those that assert that the 2nd Amendment was to protect the people, so they can rise up against their elected government, are ignorant, plain and simple.

There is no provision in the Constitution to redress tyranny beyond the next election, impeachment and criminal prosecution. The Founders never intended and never provided, a means to sanction insurrection.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Clermont Fl
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Kept by the government? Think about it liberals.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Assumes facts not in evidence. The "whole purpose" of the 2nd Amendment is not to "prevent tyranny."
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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If you think some fighters with guns could overthrow a tyrannical government, you should look into how that method is working out in Syria.
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...lol...lol...lol...yeah?...how'd it work out in 1776...
Not well.

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To place any dependence upon militia is assuredly resting upon a broken staff. Men just dragged from the tender scenes of domestic life, unaccustomed to the din of arms, totally unacquainted with every kind of military skill ... makes them timid and ready to fly from their own shadows
Blessed by Britain's long supply line, Washington had time to turn his militia into a regular army, and even then, things would not have gone well if it hadn't been for the French. The idea of sharp-shooting minutemen hiding behind every bush and defeating massed ranks of redcoats? - it's a myth. The British army - like the French and, eventually, the Americans - used massed infantry because,with the technology of the time, it worked.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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The whole purpose of the 2nd Amendment is not to prevent tyranny.
Not the whole purpose, but the PRIMARY purpose.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is one gun for every resident in the US, do you honestly expect the government to confiscate that amount of guns, time to get a grip. Do you know of any country that took that many weapons away from it's citizens, you would have to create an entire agency just for this.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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If you think some fighters with guns could overthrow a tyrannical government, you should look into how that method is working out in Syria.
Actually a great example but not the point you're trying to make, those people have very few weapons.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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No. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to provide a means for a militia in the absence of a standing army. Those that assert that the 2nd Amendment was to protect the people, so they can rise up against their elected government, are ignorant, plain and simple.
99 times out of 100, when someone offers an unsubstantiated opinion and calls those with an opposing view stupid, they're wrong. Liberals may try to rewrite history, but the words of our founders cannot be changed:

Thomas Jefferson: "And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Noah Webster: "The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed... A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."

Richard Henry Lee: "A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms." "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms..."

Elbridge Gerry: "Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."

Alexander Hamilton: "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."

Abraham Lincoln: "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." "We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution."

(quotes from Quotes from the Founding Fathers).
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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Guns are obsolete weapons against a tyrannical government.
Actually no they are not, first you are assuming volunteer soldiers would turn against their fellow citizens. That is not going to happen en masse. If you look through history governments like Saddam's Iraq for example have a small but very well armed military closely aligned with the dictator.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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I guess it is their fantasy. You know, the bigger the gun, the better it can compensate for other inadequacies.
Not bad 'fer a country boy'.




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