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Old 06-04-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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No one was arrested. No one was sent to jail. Most of these crybabies were not given tax exempt status fast enough to make them happy, but that does not mean they were unfairly denied.

I'm not carrying water for the IRS, I have no love for them or their policies, but the Republican clown car parade of their hand picked whiners testifying about "tyranny" and "being scared of their government" and blah blah blah is just yet more hyperbole, and more red meat propaganda by Republicans.

At least it is a break from the Benghazi "scandal", but it is never enough for wingnuts, as their appetite is insatiable. And Republicans have them trained to slobber at the bell.
The bell never stops ringing.
Hey, that bell you hear ringing......is the bell of freedom. But you've never heard it, have you?
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:45 PM
 
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Default Seems PP has a lot to do with politics and it pays off for them

Planned Parenthood Official to Become Chair of Georgia Democratic Party | LifeNews.com

"An official with the nation’s biggest abortion business will soon become the state chair of the Georgia Democratic Party.
Nikema Williams, vice president of public policy for Planned Parenthood Southeast, will take over from Georgia Democratic Party Chair Mike Berlon, who will be stepping down on Sunday."


They got Obama elected and now they are being rewarded.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Yea, because it makes perfect sense for PP to instead support the American Taliban, who want women to get abortions in back alleys with coat hangers, right? And because the Taliban want girls to not practice family planning and birth control? Gee Wally, it would make sense to support people who both respect women, and women's rights, wouldn't it?

They are not stupid, they leave that to the American Taliban.


Taking responsibility for one's actions is still off the table?
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Abortion kills a learning child.

No child should die alone.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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Neither did any of the groups the IRS targeted but yet many still cheered on the IRS going after them while leaving groups like P.P. alone.
Just exactly what type of "social welfare" work does the tea party do? Seriously? My personal opinion is that all of the (c)4 organizations need to go--none of them should be allowed to do campaign work and be exempt from taxes--but under the guidelines PP clearly meets the criteria that the IRS has laid out. The tea party doesn't.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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1. I like how you think Democrats are all knowing now LOL.

2.You gave us a link a website that does not show a single thing you posted in your comment.

PP's 501(c)4 did not campaign for President Obama, Tea party groups readily support candidates.

#FAIL
I like how you (disingenuously) use the term "campaign" to deflect from the FACT that PP's political arm did in fact pour money into the effort to re-elect Barack Obama.

I dare you to Google it.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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No one was arrested. No one was sent to jail. Most of these crybabies were not given tax exempt status fast enough to make them happy, but that does not mean they were unfairly denied.

I'm not carrying water for the IRS, I have no love for them or their policies, but the Republican clown car parade of their hand picked whiners testifying about "tyranny" and "being scared of their government" and blah blah blah is just yet more hyperbole, and more red meat propaganda by Republicans.

At least it is a break from the Benghazi "scandal", but it is never enough for wingnuts, as their appetite is insatiable. And Republicans have them trained to slobber at the bell.
The bell never stops ringing.
I would have denied all of the groups--on either side of the political aisle--that didn't meet the social welfare criteria. The TRUTH is that most of them were approved anyway, although they had to go through some additional review to make sure that they did SOMETHING (ANYTHING ) that might even loosely help them meet the standards for a 501(c)4. This is whining on the part of the tea party. If anything good comes from this, we need to address the standards for 501(c)4's and shut them all down from getting a free ride on political campaign work.

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Old 06-05-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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Planned Parenthood Political Action Committee (PAC) has better tax lawyers as a result they have found a way to stay within the tax code.

Any other questions I can help you with?
A tax lawyer has nothing at all to do with it, what an ignorant comment. It's the ACTIVITIES that determine this, not some write off somewhere. Holy ignorance Batman!
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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I would have denied all of the groups--on either side of the political aisle--that didn't meet the social welfare criteria. The TRUTH is that most of them were approved anyway, although they had to go through some additional review to make sure that they did SOMETHING (ANYTHING ) that might even loosely help them meet the standards for a 501(c)4. This is whining on the part of the tea party. If anything good comes from this, we need to address the standards for 501(c)4's and shut them all down from getting a free ride on political campaign.
No they haven't been approved yet. Almost all of them are still waiting 3 YEARS later.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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You've provided nothing here. That's the whole point of the OP......that PP is hiding behind its social welfare advocacy and no one is challenging the level of its political activity. This is, of course, by design. Liberals and Democrats....and clearly the IRS.....will NEVER question PPs activities. And that's the point.
I used to run nonprofit (tax exempt) agencies. In order to take any kind of public funding, organizations are required to go through an annual audit from an outside, independent auditing firm. One of the things they check for is compliance with the rules and regs surrounding your tax exempt status. You basically have an auditor sitting in your office anywhere from two weeks to a month (depending on the size of the group) going through every scrap of paper, including staff time logs and financials, to make sure that you're meeting good management and accounting practices and meeting the terms and conditions of your grants and the regs around your exemption status. A copy of the audit is submitted when you apply for funding to prove you're managing the organization well. The audit is also used when nonprofits are rated for being a sound public charity.

PP HAS to do an annual, independent audit because they get grant funds to do a chunk of their work. Other 501(c)4s that take purely political contributions would have no need to do so. You're worrying about a lack of compliance from the wrong group. I'd LOVE to see what kind of social welfare work American Crossroads or even the new Clinton 501(c)4 groups--all formed purely for campaign work--are doing. Here's a hint--they're not doing any.
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