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I think this scandal could be very good got the democrats. I'm very sure that it can easily be shown that every single one of these conservative "Social" promoting tax exempt organizations are illegal and are nothing but fronts for conservative political action. An in depth investigation of the whole IRS scandal would bring that fact into the light of day. The result could be they all lose their status and will have to pay mega back taxes. The fact that the same organizations, except they are democratic are exactly the same could easily be kept out of the investigation because it's irrelevant to the case at hand. This scandal could be the GOPs worst nightmare. Harry Reid should appoint a special prosecuter to dig into it and who also knows what it is he wants to acomplish.
I think this scandal could be very good got the democrats. I'm very sure that it can easily be shown that every single one of these conservative "Social" promoting tax exempt organizations are illegal and are nothing but fronts for conservative political action. An in depth investigation of the whole IRS scandal would bring that fact into the light of day. The result could be they all lose their status and will have to pay mega back taxes. The fact that the same organizations, except they are democratic are exactly the same could easily be kept out of the investigation because it's irrelevant to the case at hand. This scandal could be the GOPs worst nightmare. Harry Reid should appoint a special prosecuter to dig into it and who also knows what it is he wants to acomplish.
You bemoan the "loss of personal freedom," yet refer to the IRS scandal as "faux." Do you understand and/or appreciate that the right to organize politically at the grass roots level without burdensome governmental oversight, regulation and taxes, is one of the hallmarks of our first amendment rights?
Have you ever even read the Constitution?
It is fun to watch them squirm as their world is starting to crash around them.
I think this scandal could be very good got the democrats. I'm very sure that it can easily be shown that every single one of these conservative "Social" promoting tax exempt organizations are illegal and are nothing but fronts for conservative political action. An in depth investigation of the whole IRS scandal would bring that fact into the light of day.
They are not tax exempt, that the problem.
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The result could be they all lose their status and will have to pay mega back taxes.
Again, they are not tax exempt.
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The fact that the same organizations, except they are democratic are exactly the same could easily be kept out of the investigation because it's irrelevant to the case at hand.
Oh why yes, of course....they are dems and do no wrong...
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This scandal could be the GOPs worst nightmare. Harry Reid should appoint a special prosecuter to dig into it and who also knows what it is he wants to acomplish.
I don't think he can appoint a special prosecuter, but he kows better, it would also bring down leftist organization..
I'm not excusing Obama. I'm just pointing out the relative gulf between a real scandal and one that is just PFFFT. These faux scandals the GOPers keep harping on are just par for the course for every administration. They deflect attention about really big issues that are wrecking the USA big time. How about the loss of personal freedoms under both Obama and Bush. Now that is something truely worthy of 24/7 attention from everyone. The media, the political stuffed shirts and the citizens of the country. What do we hear?????? Very very little at all. How about the fact the country is becoming more and nore owned and controlled by international corporations. When the too big to fail banks illegally kick tens of thousands of people from their homes, what happens to them. A slap on the wrists at best. When they have stolen hundreds of billions from investers with their ponzi schemes and are caught red handed, what happens to them. Do they go to jail? NO. Do they get charged? NO. I wish Elizabeth Warren was the President and put these criminals through a wringer and jailed them for life for ruining people's lives because of their insaitable greed.
This "faux" scandal you are talking about has already seen the IRS admit wrong doing, had the wrong doing substantiated in a Treasury Department Inspector General (IG) investigation, and led to the firing of the acting head of the IRS. Not, if it is a made up scandal, then why did the President call for the firing of the acting head of the IRS? The real question is how far this actually goes. It has already been proven that the IRS deliberately singled out conservative groups, and they have already admitted as much. Now it needs to be seen how many of the groups confidential applications were leaked to progressive organizations in the run up to the 2012 elections, how wide spread the auditing of political opponents really was, and if there is a connection to the administration.
You bemoan the "loss of personal freedom," yet refer to the IRS scandal as "faux." Do you understand and/or appreciate that the right to organize politically at the grass roots level without burdensome governmental oversight, regulation and taxes, is one of the hallmarks of our first amendment rights?
Have you ever even read the Constitution?
I am very familiar with your constitution and I'm also familiar with the hoops your supreme court bunch of political hacks had to jump through to make the Citizens united decision. What you call your rights under the 1st are actually the destruction of freedom. There is no freedom when your government is for sale to the highest bidder. As long as there is such a lack of political finance law in the USA your country will just get more and more corrupt. The people's voices will mean nothing in relation to the special interests who OWN the politicians. It's just so very ironic that that the destruction of true freedom and democracy is being caused by what you erronously believe is the intent of, "Freedom of speech".
If anyone at the IRS broke any laws in dealing with any group, then those responsible should be held accountable...
But why lie and make false accusation? How does that get to the bottom line? It just makes the process suspect and not credible.
But you see this is whole point. To make political hay, not to do the right thing. The right wingers have become addicted to innuendo and smear jobs as their first order of business. Look at all "the mask's" threads. Lies and false accusations are the bedrock of partisan media.
This "faux" scandal you are talking about has already seen the IRS admit wrong doing, had the wrong doing substantiated in a Treasury Department Inspector General (IG) investigation, and led to the firing of the acting head of the IRS. Not, if it is a made up scandal, then why did the President call for the firing of the acting head of the IRS? The real question is how far this actually goes. It has already been proven that the IRS deliberately singled out conservative groups, and they have already admitted as much. Now it needs to be seen how many of the groups confidential applications were leaked to progressive organizations in the run up to the 2012 elections, how wide spread the auditing of political opponents really was, and if there is a connection to the administration.
It's not a made up scandal. It's real, dirt was done and it's par for the course. Politics is the dirtiest game there is. If you don't believe that every powerful politican there is does not use his position to squash his enemies then you need to educate yourself. This will never be pinned on Obama even if he directly ordered it. He's way too slippery.
I don't think he can appoint a special prosecuter, but he kows better, it would also bring down leftist organization..[/quote]
Ya, my bad!!! It would be holder that appoints a special prosecutor.
I'm pretty sure he could find to his liking!!!
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