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That's true and they can get away with it in a big city. I live in a small town where word spreads pretty fast when somebody can't be trusted or they burn people.
My point was that people do what they do and suffer the consequences for it. Addiction is not and should not be illegal. We already have laws against stealing and such.
Sure someone has a reputation, but I used to live in the rural mountains - they can still make life difficult.
Sure addiction should be illegal - because people who are addicted are a bane to society, and if they aren't willing to help themselves, society should force it - Addicts don't operate in a void.
War on Drugs = Protecting the American people from themselves.
When you set out to protect people from doing harm to themselves, you're signing up to fail. If people want drugs, they'll find a way to get them. That's why Prohibition didn't work and that's why the War on Drugs has not stopped Americans from using illicit drugs. Such a waste of time and money.
After the Communists took over China in 1949 they rounded up the drug users and put them into treatment or shot them. They told them point blank that there was no second chance and the problem went away. They Chinese government did the same thing back in the 1800's with people addicted to drugs. We should do the same thing now. Give the drug users some time picking beans in the hot sun for rehab and if they go back to drugs, put them back into the bean fields.
May I ask what kind of prescription drugs you're using?
One of the growing widespread usage of drugs involves our seniors with pain medication! How many times do you read in the paper today, a senior involved in an accident and? The diagnosis? Medical episode!
Those living in San Diego, or other border towns, could care less if drugs are legal or not, all they have to do is go to a Farmacia in Mexico, get any Dr. in a border town to write you a prescription (easy as pie!), which is honored at the Border, and drug out on the other side of the Border!
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War on Drugs = Protecting the American people from themselves.
When you set out to protect people from doing harm to themselves, you're signing up to fail. If people want drugs, they'll find a way to get them. That's why Prohibition didn't work and that's why the War on Drugs has not stopped Americans from using illicit drugs. Such a waste of time and money.
if a science method was failing for over 70 years they would try something different.. Edison experimented with like 6000 different combinations of materials before he finally invented the carbon filament for light bulbs..
drug war is just that a never ending war,, definitely time to try another method
if a science method was failing for over 70 years they would try something different.. Edison experimented with like 6000 different combinations of materials before he finally invented the carbon filament for light bulbs..
drug war is just that a never ending war,, definitely time to try another method
But its not failing. The government has used the supposed war on drugs to expand its reach into our lives and steal our wealth. Once you understand the goal is not to help anyone from themselves, but for the state to help itself to our wealth, you recognize its success.
Ok, everyone keeps saying the "bane in taxes." What taxes? Serious hard core drug users don't have jobs. How are they going to get their drugs? How do they get them now? They steal, rob, and burglarize people's homes to get money to buy drugs. So what are you going to do, lock them up for the theft? They only did it to get drugs and if drugs were legal, they wouldn't be locked up, right? Wrong again.
So now what? The government runs the methamphetamine trade. It has to have committee's, a director which is making a million plus a year, thousands of cronies, which is going to drive up the cost of crank god knows how much. However, its going to go up substantially. There is no way around this. Then what? Even your casual, weekend drug user won't be able to afford to go to their local Rite Aid and buy crank. So is Obamacare going to cover drugs?
Now, all these people who can't afford it (except the 1%) are going to go right back to the drug dealers they see now.
What about all the families this destroys? Jane Smith just wants to lose those last 5 lbs. In case you don't know, methamphetamine is marketed, legally, in the US as a weight loss drug. Its called Desoxyn. Now she gets addicted to it, oses her job, and her kids are out on the streets, along with her. Or do you want to raise everyone's taxes to pay for the increased welfare roles and unemployment?
Sure, this may only happen to 5% of the population, however that is ALOT of people and ALOT of social services and again, the tax revenue is NOT going to be there.
Two more points on this: One, one reason Obama has been going after medical marijuana is the plain and simple fact: They aren't paying taxes. Two, in California, of course most people don't know this and/or the drug users gloss over it, mere drug possession IS DE-CRIMANLIZED. Yet, drug usage in California hasn't gone down.
It has done what others on this thread has said: Made a whole new breed of money grubbing people: REHAB. See, if you are caught just with drugs, the court MUST send you to rehab (with minor exceptions). Get caught again and rehab again. And again, and again, and again, and again. ALL paid for with taxpayer money. Oh, and guess who gets to decide whether or not you are making progress in rehab? The rehab counselors...Like school, no full seats, no money. See the abuses there? But hell, were HELPING the addicts aren't we?
All of this junk "sounds good." On paper. Fact is, it doesn't work, won't work, and will never work. The first time some soccer mom flips out on crank and slices her kids throats, people are going to scream: Why is this stuff legal?
Ok, everyone keeps saying the "bane in taxes." What taxes? Serious hard core drug users don't have jobs. How are they going to get their drugs? How do they get them now? They steal, rob, and burglarize people's homes to get money to buy drugs. So what are you going to do, lock them up for the theft? They only did it to get drugs and if drugs were legal, they wouldn't be locked up, right? Wrong again.
So now what? The government runs the methamphetamine trade. It has to have committee's, a director which is making a million plus a year, thousands of cronies, which is going to drive up the cost of crank god knows how much. However, its going to go up substantially. There is no way around this. Then what? Even your casual, weekend drug user won't be able to afford to go to their local Rite Aid and buy crank. So is Obamacare going to cover drugs?
Now, all these people who can't afford it (except the 1%) are going to go right back to the drug dealers they see now.
What about all the families this destroys? Jane Smith just wants to lose those last 5 lbs. In case you don't know, methamphetamine is marketed, legally, in the US as a weight loss drug. Its called Desoxyn. Now she gets addicted to it, oses her job, and her kids are out on the streets, along with her. Or do you want to raise everyone's taxes to pay for the increased welfare roles and unemployment?
Sure, this may only happen to 5% of the population, however that is ALOT of people and ALOT of social services and again, the tax revenue is NOT going to be there.
Two more points on this: One, one reason Obama has been going after medical marijuana is the plain and simple fact: They aren't paying taxes. Two, in California, of course most people don't know this and/or the drug users gloss over it, mere drug possession IS DE-CRIMANLIZED. Yet, drug usage in California hasn't gone down.
It has done what others on this thread has said: Made a whole new breed of money grubbing people: REHAB. See, if you are caught just with drugs, the court MUST send you to rehab (with minor exceptions). Get caught again and rehab again. And again, and again, and again, and again. ALL paid for with taxpayer money. Oh, and guess who gets to decide whether or not you are making progress in rehab? The rehab counselors...Like school, no full seats, no money. See the abuses there? But hell, were HELPING the addicts aren't we?
All of this junk "sounds good." On paper. Fact is, it doesn't work, won't work, and will never work. The first time some soccer mom flips out on crank and slices her kids throats, people are going to scream: Why is this stuff legal?
So by your own logic you are against also private firearm ownership? Because its the gun, drug, random inanimate object that is responsible for the crime and not the person commiting the act.
So by your own logic you are against also private firearm ownership? Because its the gun, drug, random inanimate object that is responsible for the crime and not the person commiting the act.
Absolutely not and trying to make this a gun control issue is stupid and inane. I AM blaming the person. What I am asking for is people who want to legalize drugs to think it through better and think about the consequences of said actions. What are we going to do with all these drug addicts? Where are they going to go? Who is going to pay for it?
That was the original intent of my post and of course, you have no answer for any of that. No one does. Its not about legalizing drugs for the population, its about legalizing drugs for them. MOST people who are for drug legalization are recreational drug users now and want it legal, so they do not face criminal charges. They don't care about the drug addicts and use it as a front. Its already been demonstrated with medical marijuana. Anyone who has a head on their shoulders know medical marijuana is a scam so people can freely use it. Same with drug legalization.
Now, come up with good solid VERIFIABLE answers on what to do with the 10 million plus new drug addicts, and all the fallout from their families and we can talk. WITHOUT raising my taxes to pay for these people. Until then, it is a pipe dream and drug users wants/desires.
Because NO LIBERAL is going to say: I don't care Jane Smith is addicted to drugs, lost her job, lost her house, and her 14 yr old is prostituting herself to pay for mommies drug habit. They are going to raise taxes to pay for social programs for these people. Because the tax base isn't going to be there to pay for it otherwise.
So by your own logic you are against also private firearm ownership? Because its the gun, drug, random inanimate object that is responsible for the crime and not the person commiting the act.
He's just protecting his job, he's a cop. No drug raids means we can lay off a lot of cops and probably close a lot of those prisons.
People need to be allowed to be responsible for themselves, then they will make better choices or they will die. It's up to them.
A lot of those gangsters killing eachother in Chicago over drug territories would have to find something else to feud over, or head to another country where drug lords reign supreme.
Absolutely not and trying to make this a gun control issue is stupid and inane. I AM blaming the person. What I am asking for is people who want to legalize drugs to think it through better and think about the consequences of said actions. What are we going to do with all these drug addicts? Where are they going to go? Who is going to pay for it?
That was the original intent of my post and of course, you have no answer for any of that. No one does. Its not about legalizing drugs for the population, its about legalizing drugs for them. MOST people who are for drug legalization are recreational drug users now and want it legal, so they do not face criminal charges. They don't care about the drug addicts and use it as a front. Its already been demonstrated with medical marijuana. Anyone who has a head on their shoulders know medical marijuana is a scam so people can freely use it. Same with drug legalization.
Now, come up with good solid VERIFIABLE answers on what to do with the 10 million plus new drug addicts, and all the fallout from their families and we can talk. WITHOUT raising my taxes to pay for these people. Until then, it is a pipe dream and drug users wants/desires.
Because NO LIBERAL is going to say: I don't care Jane Smith is addicted to drugs, lost her job, lost her house, and her 14 yr old is prostituting herself to pay for mommies drug habit. They are going to raise taxes to pay for social programs for these people. Because the tax base isn't going to be there to pay for it otherwise.
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