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Old 06-10-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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You think that little of yourself, that's your business. Don't presume to inflict anyone else with such an immoral perversion of life's value.
The value we place on our lives is established based on the actions we take that would endanger it.

For instance, those who would steal place very little value on their lives. In the prostitutes case, $150 was what she placed the value of her life when she decided to steal in a state that allows lethal force in the protection of property.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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If people are gonna go around saying the "law is the law" the "law is great because it teaches thieves nt to steal" then you should be able to answer those questions

Let's say a serial criminal starts inviting kids, or parents with kids or people with mental disabilities to his home and sets them up so they steal a candy bar or a Hershey Kiss. He didn't do anything against the law(unlike our John who was dealing with criminal rings) and under this law our serial killer would be protected. The law does not specify age, or dollar amount. Then other serial killers find out and start moving to Texas. Would you still think the law should stay as it is?

And you should be able to answer that because laws are written for possible scenarios, not just for past scenarios.

How many times has that happened?

The same crap was said way back when these laws started to get put through. How many have we seen?

You keep going on how you need to handicap victims in order to keep people safe. This law has protected a lot of property, put a lot of thieves in their place.


Ah, the typical fascist argument. Demand the removal of liberty for the sake of complex imaginary scenarios of abuse.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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If I were committing a felony, my life would be worth zero. How about yours?
Then, don't smoke pot!
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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How many times has that happened?

The same crap was said way back when these laws started to get put through. How many have we seen?

You keep going on how you need to handicap victims in order to keep people safe. This law has protected a lot of property, put a lot of thieves in their place.


Ah, the typical fascist argument. Demand the removal of liberty for the sake of complex imaginary scenarios of abuse.
You didn't answer the question.

And your definition of liberty is shooting people left & right? LOL, hilarious! You should go see the movie "Purge", the premise is probably right up your alley.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:10 PM
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The value we place on our lives is established based on the actions we take that would endanger it.
No it isn't.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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You didn't answer the question.

And your definition of liberty is shooting people left & right? LOL, hilarious! You should go see the movie "Purge", the premise is probably right up your alley.
The question is a fallacy, a slippery slope to be exact.


The question is ripe with idiocy.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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No it isn't.
That is because you have no concept of responsibility.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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The question is a fallacy, a slippery slope to be exact.


The question is ripe with idiocy.
No it isn't. You just don't want to answer it. You don't have the guts to answer it.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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No it isn't. You just don't want to answer it.
No, the question is absurd.

It is a slippery slope.

There is no credibility to the the question because it poses a scenario that has never happened, nor is even reasonably likely to occur. This law has been in effect not only here, but in other states for years and never has even a remotely close incident occurred. So asking me to rule on an absurd scenario as you describe is ridiculous because if you have to use absurdities to establish your point, then your point is absurd.

The fact is, in such an occurrence, it would be shown obviously the intent of "lying in wait". You didn't even try to get clever with your scenario, it is beyond stupid.

When the laws were first brought around, people made similar claims about people using the law to invite people over they wanted to kill. All this time, and hmm... no outbreaks of people being killed left and right through the abuse of the law.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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The question is a fallacy, a slippery slope to be exact.


The question is ripe with idiocy.
Why not just answer it?
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