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Old 06-11-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Can't argue the point, huh?

As long as the STATE of HAWAII says that President Obama was born there, the birth certificate is irrelevant.

A simple, unvarnished FACT.


Then what is the State of Hawaii basing their finding upon?
A palm reader?

This is the document the State of Hawaii, presented?
Then that opens another can of worms, to be put in the frying pan.

Can't have it both ways, when one contradicts the other.
I was born on a Friday, but it was not last Friday. Try to fool someone else.

 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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Then what is the State of Hawaii basing their finding upon?
their records. You know the physical copies of the records that their Department of Health has been tasked with keeping, by the Hawaii Constitution.

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This is the document the State of Hawaii Department of Health, presented?
Yes, two times. The COLB given to President Obama in 2007 and again in April of 2011.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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mark kessler, birther cop, seems (IMO) to be trying to organize an armed march on washington in support/cahoots with arpaio and the CCP (cold case posse):

Bombshell: Police Chief Mark Kessler On Obama ID Fraud; Obama Not Kenyan Or American | Birther Report: Obama Release Your Records

what i found interesting was in part 4 around 4:45. don jeffrey of the CCP comes on to say that the CCP has absolutely nothing to do with the event while kessler claims it was at the request of arpaio and zullo.



also kessler claims that at the "closed door" meeting zullo showed evidence that obama "isn't kenyan", "isn't american" and his parents are not his parents.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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their records. You know the physical copies of the records that their Department of Health has been tasked with keeping, by the Hawaii Constitution.

Yes, two times. The COLB given to President Obama in 2007 and again in April of 2011.
The one(s) given to Perkins Coie attorneys.
Perkins Coie Got Obama's Birth Certificate - Legal Times

Meanwhile, an expert witness hired by a Perkins Coie attorney has determined that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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oh boy, talk about already debunked claims being offered
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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oh boy, talk about already debunked claims being offered
Who's debunked Hayes' report/testimony? Let's see it.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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The one(s) given to Perkins Coie attorneys.
Perkins Coie Got Obama's Birth Certificate - Legal Times
Oh lookie someone who can't read a thread, to see this claim has already been debunked.

One case, for a one lawyer who WAS employed by Perkins Coie (one of over 1000 lawyers mind you), in which we don't know the details of the case (whether Hayes reports was used, or that he testified, or that the court actually used his report, or it was refuted by the other side).


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Meanwhile, an expert witness hired by a Perkins Coie attorney has determined that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.
an expert who has no experience in digital imagery, says that an image of the birth certificate says that it was "made from several sources (paraphrase)" - he didn't say it was a "forgery" because WE DO NOT HAVE HIS REPORT!!! only the claims of a Known liar, Zullo.

He did NOT claim that the original PAPER document that is at the White House, and in the Vault in the Hawaii Department of Health is a forgery.

You birthers are pathetic.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Who's debunked Hayes' report/testimony? Let's see it.
Wasn't talking about Hayes. It was in response to Zullo and his secret meeting where he claimed that Obama isn't American, Isn't kenyan and his parents aren't his parents:


Isn't American - debunked. Born in Hawaii and Hawaii is a US State (since 1959) and that makes him an American from birth.

Isn't Kenyan - debunked. By virtue of his Father, Obama is indeed Kenyan

His parents aren't his parents - debunked. Numerous contemporaneous evidence prove that Obama Sr, and Stanley ann as being Obama's parents. Obama looks like Stanely Armor dunham.


As for Haye's report, how can one "debunk" anything in his report, if no one but the Known LIAR Zullo has seen it?
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Then what is the State of Hawaii basing their finding upon?
A palm reader?

This is the document the State of Hawaii, presented?
Then that opens another can of worms, to be put in the frying pan.

Can't have it both ways, when one contradicts the other.
I was born on a Friday, but it was not last Friday. Try to fool someone else.
The STATE of HAWAII is basing their finding upon the state's records. Not on the birth certificate that THEY issued. Which, if it is a forgery, is not the birth certificate they issued. You're right, you can't have it two ways.

The STATE of HAWAII keeps records of all births in the state. Their RECORDS indicate that President Obama was born in Hawaii. They have publicly stated this.

It is up to birthers not to prove that the birth certificate is a forgery, but that the STATE of HAWAII is wrong. And to do that, you have to prove that President Obama was born elsewhere. You have to find an actual, bona fide, record maintained by a government authority, showing President Obama was born somewhere else.

All the hookum about Anne Obama flying to Kenya and missing immigration records is all hookum. Despite the millions of dollars concerned citizens like yourself have donated to Ms Taitz and Mr Zullo and those of that ilk, you haven't been able to unearth the one record that you need. Instead, they keep holding press conferences and publish findings about forgeries and book blurbs. It's a con. They are making millions of dollars, by conning people.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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One case, for a one lawyer who WAS employed by Perkins Coie
Exactly! A Seattle, Washington Perkins Coie attorney has used the exact same expert witness who has determined Obama's birth certificate to be a forgery.
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